Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire So, which of the 6 theories of Evolution do you unbelievers believe in?

I hope you'e trying to be facetious and aren't just dumb.

One can't evolve features just because they might be useful. The basic tetrapod form--four limbs plus a tail, limbs ending in digits--has remained unchanged since long before the dinosaurs. So it is that some animals have four legs, in others the legs have evolved into hands, and into wings in still others. In some cases (snakes, whales, ostriches) the limbs have atrophied if no longer needed, but can still be traced anatomically. Same goes for tails in humans.

It doesn't make sense that humans were created in their final (current) form instead of evolving. One example is wisdom teeth. They cause all kinds of trouble and we shouldn't have them. But originally our jaws were much longer, like the apes. As we developed the ability to make fire and cook food, chewing was not needed so much and a shorter face was a good adaptation. The teeth just haven't caught up yet. Or look at all our back problems. Our backbones haven't totally caught up with bipedalism yet.

If God created us in his own image, he was pretty stupid to retain his wisdom teeth, crummy backbone, appendix, and some other things. I don't believe God is stupid. That's another thing the Bible got wrong.

You know that is incorrect - that would mean that you could say absolutely anything about anyone and get them to prove otherwise. That would be guilty until proven innocent. Good for killing witches though.

Non existence, by definition, leaves no trace of evidence to be found.

And in most definitions, gods are, by design, unfalsifiable.

So what happened to snakes, millipedes, caterpillars, worms, centipedes, octopuses.....

Snakes only have 2 angled scales supposedly where 2 legs used to be.

Can't you read?

Myths, legends, and conspiracies pervade his mind
Consequently there's little room for anything else.

The gift of stupid that keeps on giving, thats jX.

At least I haven't been accused of being Communist this time around.

Starman: See John 3:16. "...the world..." and "...whosoever..." seems to me would encompass more than the Torah Jews, as you term them.




This is not a trial; if it were, who is the prosecution and who is the defendant? No, it is supposed to be a conversation, albeit one where each side hopes to persuade the other of the merits of its viewpoint. There is no guilt or innocence involved here; thus my point was that AS does not have the sole right to demand sufficient evidence of anything anymore than I do.

There is compelling evidence for evolution. I offered an interpretation of that evidence that renders said evidence insufficient. I have conceded that neither position is provable, yet AS and you continue to demand "sufficient evidence" while exempting yourselves from the same standard. I don't care to continue to attempt to carry on a conversation in this manner.

I was really hoping I could just let this thread die...hopefully, it is over for me now.

I was referring to animals with backbones (chordata). Others split from chordata (or vice versa) long before the basic tetrapod form evolved. Snakes are chordata and have vestigial legs. They are not really related to millipedes etc.

Incidentally, why did your God give himself wisdom teeth? Does your God enjoy toothaches? Mine doesn't.

TYG,

You are making the positive claim relating to the existence to your specific version of your specific God, so you have the burden of proof. If you want to play the "everything exists until proven otherwise" game, well, you have 10,000 other gods to disprove before you can claim yours in the One True God. This goes back to what I alluded to earlier with Ray and the use of a Null Hypothesis and why it's the negative that's presumed true until a hypothesis has sufficient evidence. The Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection's withstood 150 years of scrutiny, and is the corner stone of modern biology. The only people who don't see this are those with primitive religious view that prevent them from acknowledging the mountain of evidence supporting it. Additionally, the Modern Flat Earth Movement is 100% religious driven, primarily, if not exclusively Christian.

They are all getting around just fine.

I'm still not sure I understand how only part of the sharks morphed into salamanders. I can only surmise it was the smart ones. And the smart cats morphed into wolves, which wanted to eat cats, but not the dumb ones.

There's a mountain of good sources on all this, if your curiosity is authentic. Just study up.

When you all agree how many angels can dance on a head of a pin, let me know.

Oh I passed Comparative Anatomy. It never revealed if some of the sharks gill arches became part of the middle ears hammer, anvil and stirrup at the same time the shark coincidently developed salamander legs to advance itself enough to travel on or in land. I would think being able to swim and eat stuff in the ocean would be preferable.

Iirc, didnt a couple of shark gill arches become mans jaw bone or mandible? Where the hell did the sharks jaw bone go?

The first part of this question would be to define angels and first determine if, by the agreed upon definition if they even existed.

No, That's Paul

Sharks did not morph into salamanders and cats did not morph into wolves. Go read something like AS recommended.

Why does your god have wisdom teeth?

Pins?