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You apparently aren't paying attention to Floyd's behavior.

Give him a bucket of KFC and a watermelon and he would be like a baby

I have friends who worked as criminal investigators in the army, airforce, Navy. Cant speak for CG. They said the majority of their cases were for simple drug possession, lots of Dv's, simple assaults and rape charges . They advised that the majority of the rape allegations were BS. Husband deploys, wife bangs a bunch of husband's friends , gets pregnant and blame it on rape.

That was my point. I'm not diminishing Paul's experience, but simply putting it into perspective. To keep it hunting centric, it'd be like a guy used to shooting deer off a corn feeder from a permanent stand with a cooler of drinks, critiquing public land elk hunting in the rockies. Some things correlate, many do not.

Here's the video on Tamir Rice. Maybe you can make a more informed statement after viewing.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2014/nov/26/cleveland-video-tamir-rice-shooting-police

It should be a patriotic duty to file fugg the IRS

Somebody missed their calling.

This is in addition to the handy... right?

Yes sir: I couldn't tell if you were pointing out that video to me or Mr. Paul.I watched the video and I'm sure the police were quite alarmed when he pulled that very real looking .45 Colt replica on them. Shreveport police shot a man that pulled a cell phone on them and assumed a shooting stance. Acting like you intend to shoot armed police is a really bad idea.

No it wasn't murder. It was bad police tactics that led to a legally justifiable shooting. Had the officers taken better advantage of time, distance and cover, Tamir would be alive. Time, distance and cover can all buy better decisions.

My LE experience comes with an asterisk. Coast Guard LE is a very different animal than street LE. It's a different environment, a different tactical field and an often different public. I am always very up front about that and quick to admit that street cops have a much tougher job. Now having said that, that doesn't mean that some of the training, tactics and constitutional law don't transfer reasonably well. I also earned my certification as a reserve deputy in Harrison County MS. I didn't have much experience with that before Katrina hit, and I ended up moving and changing jobs.

Having been trained by the country and the state of Mississippi and having cross trained with officers from all kinds of local, state and federal agencies, I can say that our training and our emphasis needs to change. Far, far more time is spent training on shooting, and on when shooting is legally justifiable, than on tactics and strategies that deliver non-lethal outcomes. I well remember the first time I read in our LE policy manual that a "retreat may be the best option in certain circumstances" I laughed. We all did. Machismo runs deep in our ranks. It almost has to.
But over time I saw that it could indeed be the best option in certain circumstances.

Wilson/Brown would have been a great time to use a tactical disengagement. An unarmed Brown had already tried to take Wilson's gun. We can draw two reasonable conclusions from that. Brown wasn't armed and he'd likely do it again. When Wilson immediately reengaged him, and did so without the benefit of the immediately available cover, he put himself in a situation in which he was all but guaranteed to have to shot an unarmed man.

Had he waited until back-up arrived and/or put his car between him and Brown, we may not have BLM today. But the shoot was legally justifiable, so it was the best outcome right?

It's an equally bad idea to drive in that close to someone you suspect may be armed, then not make use of any cover. Time, distance and cover buy better decisions. Bad tactics are more likely to deliver bad decisions.

That sir, is a fact.

If Hollywood can make a movie like once upon a time in Hollywood and write off a hundred and fifty million dollars of classic cars as a tax write-off, I am damn sure going to claim a few extra hundred miles next year.

Liberals have been gang-raping the IRS for decades. Not saying that fat cat Republicans don't do the same thing, but us middle-of-the-road conservatives are about sick of paying for these clowns + 100 million sack of crap on welfare or related.

Prince William County Virginia one of the top 10 wealthiest counties in America is where I'm forced to live part-time because of a custody arrangement. My son is a sophomore at a public school. Actually one of the better public schools in the county. Again this is a very wealthy County because of proximity to Washington DC. 63% of all the students at the school get free breakfast lunch and dinner through the various poor poor pitiful me programs. It's absolutely disheartening to try to do the right thing and yet observe A system that so f****** broken around you.

Rant over

Paul,

If you had absorbed any legitimate 4th Amendment training you would not make the statements you do.

You simply have no clue what you’re talking about.

Antlers wants to discuss the cop’s tax returns.

LMAO

Can’t make this schit up.

When ALL the arresting officers are found not guilty and released (with ruined lives of course), the burrheads will just burn the country down again:

WHO KILLED GEORGE FLOYD

Mr. Barnard: Your remarks are not portraying yourself as at all understanding of ghetto policing. If criminals were (dis) engaged with the tactics you recommend what would stop them from just walking off into the jungle never to be identified or apprehended? Unlike a USCG patrol boat with a crew on board dealing with a usually slower vessel out on open water an urban cop is often alone and in need of control of a seasoned career criminal that badly doesn't want to go back to the big house. Add to that the fact that unlike your USCG stop of a vessel there are plenty of willing confederates available to the detainee and plenty of escape routes. I gather from your comments that you are a mild mannered kindhearted person. That might be good to have around once a subject is subdued but as a street cop in the ghetto it is doubtful you would ever make a meaningful arrest. Policing the urban criminal underclass is a different world from the one you find out on the water where you at least usually have a captain or boat owner who are not usually thugs with nothing to lose even if they are hauling dope. If an urban police department adopted the policies you recommend they would soon face successful hostile resistance 90% of the time. Which is exactly what we are seeing in many cities the last few weeks.

Link?

Extremely poor health, combined with being doped up on a dangerous concoction of drugs, combined with vigorously resisting police during a lawful arrest, is what killed George Floyd. The whole thing was a scam perpetrated on the American people by the MSM from the start for the purpose of provoking racial unrest. Right out of the Bolshevik playbook.

Antlers has amazing deductive reasoning skills and this is an example of his amazing talent...... for being wrong! hahahahhahahaha