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So people should be allowed to effect other peoples health? What about the personal responsibility?
You never did explain that they do not work at all, your thoughts?
Troll, you're here to play with semantics agains. eh? Personal responsibility? When is it my personal responsibility to protect you? You want make everybody their brother's keeper. Should I run over to your house and snatch unhealthy food from your mouth? "No salty junk food, mister! No red meat! Only soy and plant based bullshit for you!" No different. Tell me WHY we should wear masks, troll? Will it STOP the transmission of Covid completely? No, it won't. Best it can do is slow it. Why is it wise to slow it? Our healthcare system is ready to handle the pandemic now. This isn't March, 2020. We have PPE, ventilators and treatments ready to role. Why slow it? The last 4 respiratory pandemics ran their course in about 18-20 months. We are about 10 months into this. If left alone, the pandemic will probably be "over" by this time next year...unless the normal course of the disease is slowed! Why do want to slow it? (Beside it is an election year?) To wait for a vaccine? Are you going to tell me that a vaccine will be safe. effective and ready to distribute by January 2021, and you can give out 200 million doses by next Labor Day? It will be a race between herd immunity and the vaccine for the masses. Slowing it without the vaccine ready to go only spreads teh total number of cases over a longer time period. Without a vaccine or herd immunity, the virus lingers and just waits for hosts. A mask does not make the virus go away.
So what is your end game with slowing the spread? Healthcare collapse? Miracle vaccine saves the planet next week? Tell me, bro! You don't protect people in your dental office Hatari?Do you wear a mask in your office? I'm guessing your all masked up, but most here do not know what you do. Game up Boss! I personally don't want to see the health care field get overwhelmed as I have family members who work in the hospitals and they are getting really concerned about the amount of rising admissions currently. Would you like to see 10 people that need treatment at your office or 150? Remember you're only spreading it out longer!
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Can someone explain to me how they are of no help at all!
I thought their purpose was to limit the distance a infected person could potentially cough or sneeze the viral load from their own person, thus thus slowing transmission by limiting exposure just as in social distancing?
I am not sick. My wearing a mask does you, me, nor anyone else any good. It is only a symbolic thing. Wearing a mask is not unlike putting a Biden/Harris sticker on one's car.
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Can someone explain to me how they are of no help at all!
I thought their purpose was to limit the distance a infected person could potentially cough or sneeze the viral load from their own person, thus thus slowing transmission by limiting exposure just as in social distancing?
I am not sick. My wearing a mask does you, me, nor anyone else any good. It is only a symbolic thing. Wearing a mask is not unlike putting a Biden/Harris sticker on one's car. Explain the physics why they do not slow the spread.
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So people should be allowed to effect other peoples health? What about the personal responsibility?
You never did explain that they do not work at all, your thoughts?
Troll, you're here to play with semantics agains. eh? Personal responsibility? When is it my personal responsibility to protect you? You want make everybody their brother's keeper. Should I run over to your house and snatch unhealthy food from your mouth? "No salty junk food, mister! No red meat! Only soy and plant based bullshit for you!" No different. Tell me WHY we should wear masks, troll? Will it STOP the transmission of Covid completely? No, it won't. Best it can do is slow it. Why is it wise to slow it? Our healthcare system is ready to handle the pandemic now. This isn't March, 2020. We have PPE, ventilators and treatments ready to role. Why slow it? The last 4 respiratory pandemics ran their course in about 18-20 months. We are about 10 months into this. If left alone, the pandemic will probably be "over" by this time next year...unless the normal course of the disease is slowed! Why do want to slow it? (Beside it is an election year?) To wait for a vaccine? Are you going to tell me that a vaccine will be safe. effective and ready to distribute by January 2021, and you can give out 200 million doses by next Labor Day? It will be a race between herd immunity and the vaccine for the masses. Slowing it without the vaccine ready to go only spreads teh total number of cases over a longer time period. Without a vaccine or herd immunity, the virus lingers and just waits for hosts. A mask does not make the virus go away.
So what is your end game with slowing the spread? Healthcare collapse? Miracle vaccine saves the planet next week? Tell me, bro! You don't protect people in your dental office Hatari?Do you wear a mask in your office? I'm guessing your all masked up, but most here do not know what you do. Game up Boss! I personally don't want to see the health care field get overwhelmed as I have family members who work in the hospitals and they are getting really concerned about the amount of rising admissions currently. Would you like to see 10 people that need treatment at your office or 150? Remember you're only spreading it out longer! Did dentists where masks before Covid the answer is yes so your argument is baseless. It’s idiots like you who believe the BS and that’s why it’s going on as long as it has. You’re just another dumbass troll and no one and I mean no one here gives a 💩 what you post here.
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Hahaha!
The spread of the droplets or the spread of the Covid 19 virus?
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Can someone explain to me how they are of no help at all!
I thought their purpose was to limit the distance a infected person could potentially cough or sneeze the viral load from their own person, thus thus slowing transmission by limiting exposure just as in social distancing?
I am not sick. My wearing a mask does you, me, nor anyone else any good. It is only a symbolic thing. Wearing a mask is not unlike putting a Biden/Harris sticker on one's car. Is Hope Hicks or Trump the Super Spreader ?? So we now know that Trump most likely picked it up last Saturday, Yeah 6 days ago.... Now if everyone there had been wearing masks then it clearly wouldnt have spread and Trump would be geraing up for the next debate and holding massive rallies....... This aint rocket science is just basic stuff bout aerosol containment.
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Oooohhh....dueling sockpuppets.....
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Can someone explain to me how they are of no help at all!
I thought their purpose was to limit the distance a infected person could potentially cough or sneeze the viral load from their own person, thus thus slowing transmission by limiting exposure just as in social distancing?
That's what they do.
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If a mask worked so well those that wear one would have nothing to fear from those who don't wear a mask. I'm not worrying about someone not wearing a mask getting me sick
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So people should be allowed to effect other peoples health? What about the personal responsibility?
You never did explain that they do not work at all, your thoughts?
Troll, you're here to play with semantics agains. eh? Personal responsibility? When is it my personal responsibility to protect you? You want make everybody their brother's keeper. Should I run over to your house and snatch unhealthy food from your mouth? "No salty junk food, mister! No red meat! Only soy and plant based bullshit for you!" No different. Tell me WHY we should wear masks, troll? Will it STOP the transmission of Covid completely? No, it won't. Best it can do is slow it. Why is it wise to slow it? Our healthcare system is ready to handle the pandemic now. This isn't March, 2020. We have PPE, ventilators and treatments ready to role. Why slow it? The last 4 respiratory pandemics ran their course in about 18-20 months. We are about 10 months into this. If left alone, the pandemic will probably be "over" by this time next year...unless the normal course of the disease is slowed! Why do want to slow it? (Beside it is an election year?) To wait for a vaccine? Are you going to tell me that a vaccine will be safe. effective and ready to distribute by January 2021, and you can give out 200 million doses by next Labor Day? It will be a race between herd immunity and the vaccine for the masses. Slowing it without the vaccine ready to go only spreads teh total number of cases over a longer time period. Without a vaccine or herd immunity, the virus lingers and just waits for hosts. A mask does not make the virus go away.
So what is your end game with slowing the spread? Healthcare collapse? Miracle vaccine saves the planet next week? Tell me, bro! You don't protect people in your dental office Hatari?Do you wear a mask in your office? I'm guessing your all masked up, but most here do not know what you do. Game up Boss! I personally don't want to see the health care field get overwhelmed as I have family members who work in the hospitals and they are getting really concerned about the amount of rising admissions currently. Would you like to see 10 people that need treatment at your office or 150? Remember you're only spreading it out longer! Did dentists where masks before Covid the answer is yes so your argument is baseless. It’s idiots like you who believe the BS and that’s why it’s going on as long as it has. You’re just another dumbass troll and no one and I mean no one here gives a 💩 what you post here. Why are dentists wearing masks at all before or during covid? Remember they do not protect anyone right? Why is our resident dentist wearing one at work? I mean really, he should stand for his freedom and refuse to wear it.Why are people in his office wearing one now? Why are the patients wearing them in the waiting area?They do not work according to Hatari, so why wear them? Hmmmmmmmmm!
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Can someone explain to me how they are of no help at all!
I thought their purpose was to limit the distance a infected person could potentially cough or sneeze the viral load from their own person, thus thus slowing transmission by limiting exposure just as in social distancing?
I am not sick. My wearing a mask does you, me, nor anyone else any good. It is only a symbolic thing. Wearing a mask is not unlike putting a Biden/Harris sticker on one's car. Explain the physics why they do not slow the spread. Because you have to put your hands to your face to put the mask on or to take it off. That's how germs - virus spreads. Keep your hands away from your face and you won't get sick.
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Frankly, whether they "work" or not, forcing someone to wear one (especially when they're NOT sick) is tyranny. Period.
Do you feel it is tyranny that you cannot drive 120 mph on the interstate? Does not bother me in the slightest if you wreck and kill yourself nor do I care that you don't care if you live or die. What's the difference? I think speed limits are tyranny
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Frankly, whether they "work" or not, forcing someone to wear one (especially when they're NOT sick) is tyranny. Period.
Do you feel it is tyranny that you cannot drive 120 mph on the interstate? Does not bother me in the slightest if you wreck and kill yourself nor do I care that you don't care if you live or die. What's the difference? I think speed limits are tyranny Your statement would only be logical if all accidents were single vehicle accidents, and it did not harm other drivers or others.
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Frankly, whether they "work" or not, forcing someone to wear one (especially when they're NOT sick) is tyranny. Period.
Do you feel it is tyranny that you cannot drive 120 mph on the interstate? Does not bother me in the slightest if you wreck and kill yourself nor do I care that you don't care if you live or die. What's the difference? I think speed limits are tyranny If you don't care, why did you ask? :P
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From what I've read even a n95 mask doesnt really stop particles below .3 microns and the virus is about .12 microns. So the mask mandate is a little like when the teacher would have us duck under our desk during nuclear drills. It may be reassuring but it isnt going to accomplish much if it's your time to go
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Thank God for herd immunity. We are about to beat this thing like a rented mule.
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From what I've read even a n95 mask doesnt really stop particles below .3 microns and the virus is about .12 microns. So the mask mandate is a little like when the teacher would have us duck under our desk during nuclear drills. It may be reassuring but it isnt going to accomplish much if it's your time to go The topic is if masks help preventing the water droplets carrying the .3 micron virus from traveling any farther than necessary by using some sort of mask to create a barrier, similar to sneezing into a hanky.
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Frankly, whether they "work" or not, forcing someone to wear one (especially when they're NOT sick) is tyranny. Period.
Do you feel it is tyranny that you cannot drive 120 mph on the interstate? Does not bother me in the slightest if you wreck and kill yourself nor do I care that you don't care if you live or die. What's the difference? I think speed limits are tyranny Your statement would only be logical if all accidents were single vehicle accidents, and it did not harm other drivers or others. Ya think? You might be catching on... maybe.
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