Some folks just couldn't afford to stock up when ammo prices were reasonable. Your responsibilities to feed and clothe your family is first and foremost. Some of you make it sound like money grows on trees, I feel for the people that can't afford to buy ammo at these prices.
Couldn't have said it better, myself.
I know there are many folks with plenty of disposable income who can spend lots of it on ammo. They can shoot hundreds of rounds a week, and stock up tens of thousands of rounds.... and they don't seem to understand that there are others who simply cannot do that.
"You should have bought ammo when it was cheap!" they will say over and over.
For some of us, ammo has NEVER been "cheap".
There are some people just barely getting by and I feel for them and understand they couldn't by cases of ammo even when it was around. But I don't feel sorry for the guys that smoked 2 packs a day, bought a 12 pack everything they went to the store, ate out all the time, and always had the latest or greatest whatever else they were into. Lots of people chose to buy other things and not prepare. They are the ones I don't feel sorry for and they are many of the ones paying top dollar now. Some people chose not to prepare some couldn't afford to. Having the government try to make it right always makes it worse and last longer.
Have no fear, Biden will be implementing socialist controls shortly.
l told my pap and mam I was going to be a mountain man; acted like they was gut-shot. Make your life go here. Here's where the peoples is. Mother Gue, I says, the Rocky Mountains is the marrow of the world, and by God, I was right. - Del Gue
Some folks just couldn't afford to stock up when ammo prices were reasonable. Your responsibilities to feed and clothe your family is first and foremost. Some of you make it sound like money grows on trees, I feel for the people that can't afford to buy ammo at these prices.
Couldn't have said it better, myself.
I know there are many folks with plenty of disposable income who can spend lots of it on ammo. They can shoot hundreds of rounds a week, and stock up tens of thousands of rounds.... and they don't seem to understand that there are others who simply cannot do that.
"You should have bought ammo when it was cheap!" they will say over and over.
For some of us, ammo has NEVER been "cheap".
Anyone that can afford to shoot or hunt could afford to put a bit aside once in a while for the rainy day we all knew would come again at some point, maybe not “tens of thousands of rounds”, but enough to defend themselves, go hunting, and get in some practice. Short-sightedness is the problem, not lack of money. Even a year ago, dirt-cheap ammo, good ammo, was widely available. Money spent on pay-per-views, dining out, lottery tickets, booze, whatever, could’ve just as easily been spent on some SVs or White Box 9mms.
Anyone could have bought a Hi Point 45 ACP carbine for less than $200 last year. It is a perfectly serviceable and functional home defence weapon that, while ugly and cheap... just works.
Given that the average Glock or SA striker fired pistol costs $5-600, what could you do with the extra $3-400? That would have bought a Lee press kit and a whole lot of components last year.
Priorities.
Starbuck's lattes and going out to dinner 3-4 times a week will put a dent in your ammo budget, too.
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want.
“there’s got to be a way to more evenly distribute “
...... there IS, it’s called Socialism, and it’s the opposite of Capitalism, and I’ll take the latter for MANY reasons.
Are you the type that complains when you can’t buy a snowblower DURING a blizzard, or a generator DURING a hurricane? If you’ve been shooting for more than a decade and didn’t see this coming a mile away, shame on you!
“Evenly distribute”...... that’s some “comrade” talk if I ever heard it!
I'm betting the government will shut down all internet sales of ammo within the year.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
I'll just say respectfully, "If you lived thru the Assault Weapons ban, the Obama years, the Sandy Hook school shooting, the Biden campaign, and you still don't have enough guns or ammo.........it's your own damn fault.
Wait till the next mass shooting. Then Joeys EO,s will come out on foriegn imports of guns, ammo, and components. Mag restrictions too.
They have to wait to set one up when they get schools open. All a matter of time and exploiting the situation. They will use the event just like they did with gentle George. Build up the outrage over it and then call out demostrations nation wide. Give it mass media coverage for shock value
It's why he hasnt done it yet. His handlers need to cultivate the circumstance,s for it. Probably even involve a AK of some sort, steel cased ammo, and drum mags.
They don't have to set up a mass shooting. One will happen. Then we will hear it all. Rifle was brought across state lines, he had 4,000 rounds, rifle was left unlocked, he was mentally ill, he posted right wing thoughts on social media, he campaigned for Trump and attended several rallies.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
It's easy. All the big box stores have curbside pickup. If they reserved their ammo for curbside orders and limited the number of boxes they would sell per month to any given cell phone number, the situation would be much better managed. Local gun shops could do something similar. The problem is the retailers don't seem to really care, and thus they facilitate the gougers.
The retailers probably delude themselves into thinking that if customers have to come into the store to get ammo, they will buy additional products, but that doesn't work when gougers are buying all the ammo.
Some folks just couldn't afford to stock up when ammo prices were reasonable. Your responsibilities to feed and clothe your family is first and foremost. Some of you make it sound like money grows on trees, I feel for the people that can't afford to buy ammo at these prices.
There are all sorts of hard luck cases all over the country. Ammunition or diapers, it isn’t about fairness. I can’t afford a new Cadillac, but because someone else can, doesn’t mean I should have one in my garage.
It is too bad that some guy can’t take his kid out to shoot a 22, but that isn’t the fault of hoarders or ammunition sales, it is the fault of the dad. Go to the source of the problem, quit blaming circumstances.
Originally Posted by RJY66
I was thinking the other day how much I used to hate Bill Clinton. He was freaking George Washington compared to what they are now.
I'll just say respectfully, "If you lived thru the Assault Weapons ban, the Obama years, the Sandy Hook school shooting, the Biden campaign, and you still don't have enough guns or ammo.........it's your own damn fault.
For those that lived through those periods, that's valid, but what about an 18 year old buying his first rifle or a 21 year old buying her first handgun, and they don't know anyone who is into guns and has ammo?
It's easy. All the big box stores have curbside pickup. If they reserved their ammo for curbside orders and limited the number of boxes they would sell per month to any given cell phone number, the situation would be much better managed. Local gun shops could do something similar. The problem is the retailers don't seem to really care, and thus they facilitate the gougers.
The retailers probably delude themselves into thinking that if customers have to come into the store to get ammo, they will buy additional products, but that doesn't work when gougers are buying all the ammo.
That's some of the most entitled nonsense I have ever read. The guy making cash on the side flipping ammo has just as much right to the ammo as you do, maybe more. At least he's putting the work in to get it.
Originally Posted by Ramblin_Razorback
Originally Posted by scottf270
I'll just say respectfully, "If you lived thru the Assault Weapons ban, the Obama years, the Sandy Hook school shooting, the Biden campaign, and you still don't have enough guns or ammo.........it's your own damn fault.
For those that lived through those periods, that's valid, but what about an 18 year old buying his first rifle or a 21 year old buying her first handgun, and they don't know anyone who is into guns and has ammo?
I am a 40 year old guy who loves muscle cars....but I got into the hobby too late to feasibly afford what I would love to have. That's life.
It's not entitled - it's the Golden Rule. I'm comfortable with what I have so I'm not desperate to add more, but there are a lot of hardworking folks that don't deserve the bad situation made worse by the jerks who take advantage of the crisis.
I agree that the market works out the price, which is why we're seeing some outrageous prices, but the retailers need to do a better job of taking care of a broader swath of their customers.
I’ll admit being friends w a LGS owner for over 30 years has had some nice perks. I imagine buying stuff from them when biz was slow helped that friendship along.
It does. My bud had a 2 bx limit on 300BO last week, son got his and asked if'd go get 2 more. Bud asked what I was after and then how many boxes I needed? I only took 4 even though I could have had it all.
