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It's not just Cecil Tucker, I have had a couple but Bob Brackney improved on it.

Love my Brackney/ Leupold but my regular competition Leupold's work just fine also.

My LV gun when I was working with a frozen Sightron and TSI mount. Sharped eyed types will notice the Beggs tuner, also.

Good shootin'. -Al

JG:

I have had them loose zero sitting in the safe. The other issue I've experienced is wandering zero, wherein you can still shoot a tight group , but it's in a different spot than it was the last time you shot the rig. I used to blame it on wood stocks, hold position/technique, atmosphere, etc, etc. But then I took notice that some wood/blued never did it while some SS/synthetics did it regularly - guess the common denominator. I also noticed it when you'd all of a sudden get a "flyer" 3/4-1<” out and the next group would then be tight around the previous groups' flyer.

Full disclosure......I had a 6.5-20X40 gloss Vari-XIII fail back in the early 90's.

Bought the scope (open box)......at a closing gun shop in Davenport, at a very good price.

Kicked the bipod leg on a Wyoming prairie dog hunt and the rifle/scope tapped a small rock. Scope was one complete turn off in windage, after that.

Sent the scope back......returned in 14 days......invoice said windage adjustments were stripped.....no charge.

Suspect a previous customer installed the scope with STD Leupold bases/rings........stripping windage adjustments trying to zero....returning scope.

No other failures.......with over 60 Leupolds on various 'hunting' rifles since. Most mounted in dual dovetail or QR's....lapped.

Conquests, 3200's, 4200's are OK, too.

I typically don't get involved in the Leopold fire pissing contest anymore.
It's been a number of years ago now. But in my time messing with Leopold's flippy erector in short range BR.
A 6 mm PPC bench gun that would shoot an aggregate in the .150s all of a sudden would be lucky to shoot a half inch group. It happened to me repeatedly across three different Leopold Bench rest scopes.
Did the Leopold Mary go around with United parcel service for a while. One on the gun one in transit to Oregon and another one either ready to go to Oregon or ready to go on the gun.
Finally got them tuckerized which resolved the problem completely.
Never had a stock Leopold go over 950 rounds without having the erector float. Very common problem.
I'm reminded of being at the rifle range seeing some poor sap sitting there pounding on his deer rifle shooting inch and a half groups saying repeatedly that the rifle used to shoot tighter than that and of course it almost in every case there was a Leopold on top.
Sad.
From what I've read its only gone down hill.
For competition I run March and Nightforce.
For hunting it's S&B.
I simply don't have time to mess with an inferior rifle optic.
That they're using them in the short range silhouette game. Doesn't surprise me. They're cheap they're light and they're running them on a 12 lb rifle that has virtually no recoil.
Sounds like a good place for them.

Dave

IT turns into a pissing contest because people like YOU turn it into one. All I did was publish a data sheets with numbers. PERIOD. YOU then came back with YOUR theories and Pugs pretty well handed you your ass. Now you come back with YOUR anecdotal evidence (which I am not doubting in the least) about Leupolds and I related how I shoot more heavy kicking rifles than most here (including you), but yet that doesn't count. And while I have your attention, I own quite a few scopes INCLUDING a top of the line S&B and in my opinion, given similar scopes, they are OVERPRICED AND UNDER DELIVER. A fool and their money are soon parted (hint).

J

Did the BSA guy win??😜

Regarding "strictly data/numbers", I wonder how many of the 81 are using a currently available model Leupold vs. say the long discontinued fixed 16x that seems to be the "grail" scope for that discipline.

That is certainly a fair and valid question I don't have an answer for....

Jorge

I do shoot a lot of big bores and other hard kickers, and the past few years I’ve had several Leupolds crap out. They can’t take the pounding for many years before something let’s go. Buy a Trijicon or a NF and forget it.

Pugs, when I was shooting High Power and Small Bore Silhouette the thing I enjoyed the most was the turkey flopping over! Those SOB's were the toughest thing to hit with the chickens coming in second.

NFs are bulky. I do have a Trijicon on a 375 and so far so good. I've had a Leupold on my 416 Rigby AND 340 Weatherby for close to 20 years and no problems, but I do understand and recognize issues with the newer scopes. Still, in the end, I was just publishing DATA with No editorializing on my part other than the obvious tongue in cheek title...

Years ago when my father and I shot in IHMSA the turkeys were the trouble for us too.

Not surprised at all. I hated shooting at turkeys, if I could I would start with them and get those SOB's out of the way.

horse',

Confessions of a Sinner...I've had a coupla hunnert Reupolds. Hint.

I shot the objective element loose on one of them olldddddd 16x Reupolds(short silver turret bitches). Hint.



Shot newer(than the 16x pictured) 12x's apart too. Hint.



Scattered a Reupold Mk4 M1 16x's reticle too. Hint.





Due the AMAZINGLY modest "corrections" in Sillywet,I'd happily take an etched reticle that actually meant sumptin',track and repeated...if only for a fhuqking change. Hint.(grin)





Interestingly,in REAL Shooting ala Rimfire,where corrections are well beyond hilariously fhuqking trite,Reupold sets purty lonely. NO fhuqking "surprise" there though. Hint. (grin)

NRL 22 Equipment List from 2018 tally. Hint.



RINK To Article For Melting Snowflakes

'Course those rifles ain't Safe Queens either.

Hint.

Laughing!..................

I always liked starting on turkeys, if I had a good run of them at the start then I knew I was on my game, and if I had a poor run on them I still had 30 animals left to make up for a poor start. The worse thing in the world was to finish on turkeys after having a poor run on the other animals, they are hard to play catch-up on when you need 8 or 10 of them to catch up.

drover

Agreed.

Like the majority of silhouette shooters I used a Leupold, generally a 6.5-20x40, because a lot of the ranges I shot were windy and on a windy day I could turn the magnification down to lessen the apparent wobble so it wasn't so distracting.

My tracking issues went away after talking to a Leupold tech, he said that by moving the scope elevation/windage adjustments within a limited range from the zero setting and up to eleven minutes or so that eventually the grease on the threads wipes off and caused sticking in the adjustment. He advised that from time to time that the adjustments be "exercised" by runnng them from stop to stop and redistributing the grease. I started doing that and my elevation/windage adjustments worked just fine after that.

drover

I don't remember all the scopes I used but two stick out, a Leupold 12x and a Weaver T-10.

Fhuqk YES!!!

Now there's "MAGIC 11 MOA Reupold Erector Grease"! You CLUELESS Fhuqks never disappoint,by simply doing your BEST! Hint.

Used to "contend" the HUGE corrections requisite,on targets well beyond 2MOA in relative sizing. HINT.



Fhuqking LAUGHING!....................