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In Idaho you can.

What I was going to say.

They’re either free or they’re not. If they’re unsafe to society, lock them up.

My wife went to the ATM to pull $1k in cash two night ago... there were cars lurking around the parking lot... she came home without getting out of her car. Her .380 never came out of her purse.

I went back, pulled out my wallet and one of the Glocks I carry (I typically carry 2 Glocks and a .380)... set the wallet and Glock in plain site on the top shelf of the ATM... ran the transaction, looked over my shoulder once... and then came home.

Who knows and who cares... wolves and schittbirds ain't stupid.

Not picking on you Pappy, but it really is amazing to me how many people alter their own lives out of fear... or deny that they are smack dab in the middle of a War because CNN tells them they are not.

No, you have a good point. I'm not sure what the answer is but it's not to keep on, keeping on.

Bingo!, so few understand this.

That was then. Unfortunately this is now.

That would be reasonable if those "deemed safe enough to walk among us", really were...However, time and again, those who make the decision--normally a liberal judge who believes all can be turned around--are proven wrong and we find they are not out long until they need to go back...There are extremely violent people, who shouldn't be allowed to walk among us, yet are.

There are many crimes that fall under the classification of a felony....Some worse than others, if only obviously.

Recently spent some time with an individual who deals with the worst of them on a daily basis....He would give you a LOL....

Rights are suspended while incarcerated but rights can be restored under certain conditions after release. Friend long ago messed up and spent a short time in county jail. After release had to lawyer up and go thru the process. But he got everything restored.

I believe the Constitution is the supreme law of the land. I also believe the Constitution means exactly what it says. When it says separation of church and state it does not mean freedom from religion. When it says shall not be infringed, it means exactly that. Dont like it, change it!

in some states rights can be restored, and Georgia is one of them. this for state violations. there is no way for federal felons to have their rights restored.

No, not a judge, I have a strong dislike for attornys and don't think that the justice system does enough to protect society from vicious predators.

I'm just a black and white law and order guy who thinks that violent felons should be permanently removed from society. If given the authority to do so, I would execute them by public hanging in the zip code where their volent crime took place regardless of their age, gender, race, or ethnicity. Within the past couple of days an 18 year old was covicted of shooting and killing a store clerk during an attempted robbery when he was 17. He'll be sentenced in a couple of months, but he has killed and should, IMO, be put down so that he doesn't kill again. Maybe he made a mistake, carrying a gun while attempting to rob that store, but the facts are that he did try to rob that store and he did shoot/kill the clerk. Actions have consequences.

Unfortunately, actions do not have consequences for so many. IMHO that is why the country is in the shape it is.

Then again, this would be a "what if" discussion when the constitution was written.....What if we hadn't hanged him? Well we did, so it will be the problem of someone in the future if they don't..Old philosophical Ben probably would have found much amusement in throwing it around the table.

How convenient.

Not all felonies are created equal. Many are not violent, some can occur from accidents without intent.

Felon doesn't mean what it used to mean.

In Iowa a third conviction in 12 years for OWI makes you a felon. A third conviction in 12 years and one month and you are not a felon

In Illinois, if you leave your concealed carry weapon locked in your glove box and your wife (with no CCH License) takes your vehicle to town she is a felon, if caught.

In Illinois, If you leave an unloaded cased shotgun in your vehicle and your wife (with no FOID card) takes that vehicle to town, she is a felon, if caught.

The word felony is supposed to denote a serious crime with serious consequences. Some jurisdictions have watered that meaning down by making felons of people who acted with no criminal intent.

And what of a felon who has paid his debt to society? Is he supposed to pay for the rest of his existence? Suppose he takes a job, marries, has children and prospers righteously. Has he no right to defend himself and his children?

Dont try to make our founding fathers racists. There are people of each and all races that commit crimes, just as there are people from each and every race that are good people. Its much more about the living conditions and culture people live in / were raised in.

If an individual is judged by the court as a menace to society, that person should be locked away until such time as that menace is considered canceled.
If an individual cannot be considered safe to walk the streets with all of his constitutional guaranties in place, he should never take a free step.

Not real sure how I feel about felons possessing modern firearms.

Say, for example consensual sex between teenagers but with enough age difference for one to be charged with statutory rape which is a felony in many states.

Another example happened to a young nephew of a friend of mine -- charged with possession of small amount of an substance classified as a illegal drug, a misdemeanor, with an added charge of 'while in possession of a firearm' which upgraded it to a felony -- the firearm was a long forgotten old rickety rusty single shot shotgun buried under a pile of basically trash deep in the trunk of the vehicle he was driving. No shotgun ammo or any other kind of ammo was found. He nor anyone else had any idea how long the old shot gun could have been there or even it was there at all.

Another, an old friend, got drunk one cold night back in his youth, woke up on the pavement of the parking lot outside a local business, freezing he started a little fire trying to warm up, the fire got away from him and caused substantial damage to the business.

He went on and led a good productive life, bought sold and traded guns for years when ever he wanted to. Many years later after retiring he attempted to purchase a gun from a firearms dealer and was denied via BATF background check --- reason - his record showed he had a felony arson conviction over 50 years prior.

Judges , lawyers , politicians, and the propaganda machine media is what has twisted the constitution and produced legislation that can be twisted to harm some groups of people while giving lead way to people who need cut off at the knees .
How often have we said and supported “shall not be infringed “
How often have we said “protection is an individual responsibilty”
The we need help gang has been around for a long time “a chicken in every pot” has carried a lot corrupt people in office and still a handy “vote for me scheme”
Kenneth