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I always looked at the 7-08 as another version of the 7x57 Mauser, just slightly not as good. However since I got a Model 7 7-08 it gets all the use the 7x57 did and brass is far easier to make or get. Doesn't hurt that the 7-08 is 2 pounds lighter than my 7x57.
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I always looked at the 7-08 as another version of the 7x57 Mauser, just slightly not as good. However since I got a Model 7 7-08 it gets all the use the 7x57 did and brass is far easier to make or get. Doesn't hurt that the 7-08 is 2 pounds lighter than my 7x57. Simple preference?
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Unfortunately my Nikon Monarch Gold that had been very solid for years has developed a rattle. That's usually not a good sign but you know I had an old Japanese Tasco World Class that developed a rattle and it kept on working fine for years.
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My buddy’s Mom dropped her rifle getting out of her tower stand one year. Rifle fell about 10’ and landed on the scope, a Leupold of some variety. She asked me to check the zero for her and I obliged. The picture was still clear and the scope held zero. Can’t complain about that. 2 years ago I was on my first elk hunt with two of my friends and my buddy busted his butt while he has his rifle slung on his shoulder. The scope landed on a rock or something hard and the elevation knob was dented. He was worried about the scope so we checked zero. Still spot on. He can’t get the cover off the elevation turret now, so he says it will just have to stay zeroed like it is.
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Unfortunately my Nikon Monarch Gold that had been very solid for years has developed a rattle. That's usually not a good sign but you know I had an old Japanese Tasco World Class that developed a rattle and it kept on working fine for years. In this case it is a loose lens and causes groups like buckshot.
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T Blackheart,
Are you trying to replace Llama Bob? Don't know who the hell that is but if the cutesy little sentimental musings and boring ballistic gac spouted by loonies in adoring admiration of certain cartridges makes him want to retch we may be related. No, it didn't make him want to retch, he was an expert and it made him wax poetic and rhapsodically. That's much better ! I thought you'd say that, being a poetic kind of guy yourself.
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Unfortunately my Nikon Monarch Gold that had been very solid for years has developed a rattle. That's usually not a good sign but you know I had an old Japanese Tasco World Class that developed a rattle and it kept on working fine for years. In this case it is a loose lens and causes groups like buckshot. Can you get service on those from Nikon anymore ? I have a Nikon I like a great deal and have wondered about that now that they're out of the scope business.
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I haven't yet tried to find out. They used to be bitchy about purchase receipts and there's no way in hell I have that from 16+ years ago.
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Can’t we all just like all the different cartridges and get along? I enjoy using a variety of different cartridges and have no problem with anybody else's personal preferences. What will provoke me to drop a comment here and there is when someone says something technically inaccurate or tries to dress up personal bias as a logical argument. You are just far too logical, mathman. My safe has a Creed, a Swede, a 7-08 and a Roberts, all racked peacefully, sitting side by side among their safe mates..... Have never heard them fighting. And they don't "snoot" each other about their Brux, Hart and Shilen barrels, equal opportunity and diversity rules. I will say the Creed is about the most forgiving of the lot, shooting about any and every load combo well. They all shine when fed what they like, the Creed being the least picky. But, I like them all, have killed stuff with them all. And the critters they've shot, die. DF
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MM Nah, I don't do any real hunting. I just killed six deer, two bucks and four does, in three weeks back in mid Nov. -
Nice work, I had no idea New York's bag limits were that liberal.
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MM Nah, I don't do any real hunting. I just killed six deer, two bucks and four does, in three weeks back in mid Nov. -
Nice work, I had no idea New York's bag limits were that liberal. Only an issue if you get caught.... DF
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My safe has a Creed, a Swede, a 7-08 and a Roberts, all racked peacefully, sitting side by side among their safe mates.....
Have never heard them fighting.
So a Creed, a Swede, and a Roberts walk into a bar.......
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7mm-08 started out with factory ammo that sucked. WTG Remington. The CM didn't.
Now the 7mm-08 has some great factory ammo. Sorta the same way that Big Green hosed over the .280 Rem. way back when.
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I have Creedmoor and 7mm-08’s, both kill great if you put bullets in their engine rooms. Recoil is about the same with bullets of the same weight.
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My safe has a Creed, a Swede, a 7-08 and a Roberts, all racked peacefully, sitting side by side among their safe mates.....
Have never heard them fighting.
So a Creed, a Swede, and a Roberts walk into a bar....... DF
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must be winter and most of the hunting seasons are over in America for normal big game animals ? so its my cartridge is better than yours and i killed more deer than you did time on the keyboard ? WTF all these cartridges will kill game and bragging how many animals you killed is childish ,i bet the peta people are listening ? what we need on this site is a post from Big Stick !
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[/quote] Whatever man, the cartridge bores the shyt out of me and always has. Plus everybody I've known in the 42 years since it was introduced who held it as a favorite was a great big dorky ass hole so there's another strike. I'll never own one myself.
That's pretty impressive.... [/quote] By God, ain't it?
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Bigger shoulders, (.462” vice .454” ), 30 degree shoulder angle, for less pressure variance. OAL fits in a 2.8” magazine better with higher SD ( long ) bullets , without poking so much back into the cartridges precious powder space.
What more could you ask ?
I’d like one built on a 3.34” magazine , Sort of a 6.5-280 Improved 30, but with the CM taper & neck-shoulder dimensions.
Not quite a 6.5 Wby RPM , but almost.
Maybe in a 3.5” magazine, Ya Follow
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must be winter and most of the hunting seasons are over in America for normal big game animals ? so its my cartridge is better than yours and i killed more deer than you did time on the keyboard ? WTF all these cartridges will kill game and bragging how many animals you killed is childish ,i bet the peta people are listening ? what we need on this site is a post from Big Stick ! Haven’t you heard? The hobbit doesn’t post in this forum anymore. He and Llama Bob are calling each other names in another forum.
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I like the 6.5CM and the 7-08 also. However, when in the field I prefer the Swede, or the .280…..
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