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Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk.
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It’s pretty fun just sitting back and watching the 2 cucks from down under continue to prove what ignorant ass wipes they truly are. I’ve known it, as have several others for awhile now but deliberately and consistently the Australian Atheist Cuckhold Couple (AACC) demonstrate how desperately they need attention by repeating ad nauseum the same tired behaviors and boring disingenuous “debate” styles while calling EVERYONE else liars….yawn. 🫢
The 2 little piss ants are if nothing else, consistent…..consistently ignorant, belligerent and painfully entrenched in their “enlightenment”. 😂😂
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Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk. That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied.
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk. That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied. Well?
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Deliberate obfuscation has clearly become a staple of atheist apologetics. Nothing of the sort. Terms and conditions have been given and supported by quotes and references. Not faith. Basic logic.
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If you are referring to my discussion with mauser9mm, so who was discussing "Truth vs Belief"? Not us, and not any threads that I know of....and God did not enter on my part of the discussion....my conjecture was/is "evidence and proof are not the same" period.
Although what you state above is agreeable with me, it has nothing to do with mauser and my discussions....thanks for your input. Faith in the existence of a God or gods is a belief. Having faith in the truth of something is a class of belief. Belief may be based on faith or evidence. A justified belief - as opposed to faith - is justified through evidence, not faith. The article gives a basic outline on justification.
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It’s pretty fun just sitting back and watching the 2 cucks from down under continue to prove what ignorant ass wipes they truly are. I’ve known it, as have several others for awhile now but deliberately and consistently the Australian Atheist Cuckhold Couple (AACC) demonstrate how desperately they need attention by repeating ad nauseum the same tired behaviors and boring disingenuous “debate” styles while calling EVERYONE else liars….yawn. 🫢
The 2 little piss ants are if nothing else, consistent…..consistently ignorant, belligerent and painfully entrenched in their “enlightenment”. 😂😂 Tough guy Ace, instead of offering rational arguments or evidence to support his beliefs, resorts to insults. Plus, I have not called anyone a liar. Being mistaken is not a lie. Believers genuinely believe in God, but belief alone does not establish the truth of what is being believed. You yourself reject the beliefs of theists who have different versions of God, Muslims, Hindus, etc...as other theists may reject your theology. I guess insults are easier. Just the character and way of some Christians, I guess.
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Tough guy Ace, instead of offering rational arguments or evidence to support his beliefs, resorts to insults.
Plus, I have not called anyone a liar. Being mistaken is not a lie. Believers genuinely believe in God, but belief alone does not establish the truth of what is being believed.
You yourself reject the beliefs of theists who have different versions of God, Muslims, Hindus, etc...as other theists may reject your theology.
I guess insults are easier. Just the character and way of some Christians, I guess. The character and way of all Humans. Some just try to hide their slights. Some are honest about it.
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TITUS 3:9ff
But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and strife and disputes about the Law, for they are unprofitable and worthless. 10 Reject a factious man after a first and second warning, 11 knowing that such a man is perverted and is sinning, being self-condemned.
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It’s pretty fun just sitting back and watching the 2 cucks from down under continue to prove what ignorant ass wipes they truly are. I’ve known it, as have several others for awhile now but deliberately and consistently the Australian Atheist Cuckhold Couple (AACC) demonstrate how desperately they need attention by repeating ad nauseum the same tired behaviors and boring disingenuous “debate” styles while calling EVERYONE else liars….yawn. 🫢
The 2 little piss ants are if nothing else, consistent…..consistently ignorant, belligerent and painfully entrenched in their “enlightenment”. 😂😂 Damn Aces....you are 100% correct....the 2 piss-ants are just like the energizer bunnies, they keep going and going and lying and lying.... BTW, CCCC, if you are reading this, you are absolutely correct...and I apologize as I definitely would not trust mauser in a foxhole with me.
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Tough guy Ace, instead of offering rational arguments or evidence to support his beliefs, resorts to insults.
Plus, I have not called anyone a liar. Being mistaken is not a lie. Believers genuinely believe in God, but belief alone does not establish the truth of what is being believed.
You yourself reject the beliefs of theists who have different versions of God, Muslims, Hindus, etc...as other theists may reject your theology.
I guess insults are easier. Just the character and way of some Christians, I guess. The character and way of all Humans. Some just try to hide their slights. Some are honest about it. yes
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My original post explains very specifically what I’m asking. It’s a serious question.
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It’s pretty fun just sitting back and watching the 2 cucks from down under continue to prove what ignorant ass wipes they truly are. I’ve known it, as have several others for awhile now but deliberately and consistently the Australian Atheist Cuckhold Couple (AACC) demonstrate how desperately they need attention by repeating ad nauseum the same tired behaviors and boring disingenuous “debate” styles while calling EVERYONE else liars….yawn. 🫢
The 2 little piss ants are if nothing else, consistent…..consistently ignorant, belligerent and painfully entrenched in their “enlightenment”. 😂😂 It’s pretty fun just sitting back and watching the 2 cucks from down under continue to prove what ignorant ass wipes they truly are. I’ve known it, as have several others for awhile now but deliberately and consistently the Australian Atheist Cuckhold Couple (AACC) demonstrate how desperately they need attention by repeating ad nauseum the same tired behaviors and boring disingenuous “debate” styles while calling EVERYONE else liars….yawn. 🫢
The 2 little piss ants are if nothing else, consistent…..consistently ignorant, belligerent and painfully entrenched in their “enlightenment”. 😂😂 There seems to be a few consistencies with atheists. They know more about theology and church than most Christian’s They tend to base arguments about the metaphysical from a purely materialistic view of evolution. This is intellectually weak and dishonest. They make demands that God be understood by their criteria alone. They know too much about the Christian faith to have not been in it or seriously challenged by it.
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But you see, Your response is all feeling. There is nothing objective there. How have you worked to make yourself more like Christ.
If sanctification is fully up to me or is some synergistic work that I do in conjunction with the work of the Holy Spirit there must be something objective to show for it. You missed it? Tarbe I’m not sure what your question is asking.
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To keep focus, the question is not meant to open up a conversation about good works theology. The question is rather specific. There are more than a few guys on this forum who recently and historically have emphasized good works as a necessity for salvation.
A primary underlying principle of this teaching is that one either works with God or alone to “be holy”.
For those who hold to this view how do you measure your good works, your successfulness in completing good works and how do you assess God’s measurement of your good works? What is your aim with this thread? Is it your desire to trap someone in scriptural debate and prove them wrong? I think you hit the nail on the head Johnw. See the last three verses. https://thekingjamesversionbible.com/luke-11A few weeks ago you spoke of doing good works. What are those things that you do which you consider to be good? Are they good enough that you feel confident standing before God and calling them good?
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Even the real heavyweights among the New Atheists like Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins do nothing…zero…to diminish the original version of Christianity in any way whatsoever. And their minions most assuredly don’t.
Biblical scholar and historian Bart Ehrman…who also embraces agnosticism and atheism…even he clearly states in his book ‘The Triumph of Christianity’ that however one evaluates the merits of the case (of Christianity), no one can deny that it was the most monumental cultural transformation our world has ever seen.
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Even the new time division uses Jesus. They foolishly use "before common era" and "common era".
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Even the real heavyweights among the New Atheists like Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins do nothing…zero…to diminish the original version of Christianity in any way whatsoever. And their minions most assuredly don’t.
Biblical scholar and historian Bart Ehrman…who also embraces agnosticism and atheism…even he clearly states in his book ‘The Triumph of Christianity’ that however one evaluates the merits of the case (of Christianity), no one can deny that it was the most monumental cultural transformation our world has ever seen. Thanks, I have to get the book.
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It’s pretty fun just sitting back and watching the 2 cucks from down under continue to prove what ignorant ass wipes they truly are. I’ve known it, as have several others for awhile now but deliberately and consistently the Australian Atheist Cuckhold Couple (AACC) demonstrate how desperately they need attention by repeating ad nauseum the same tired behaviors and boring disingenuous “debate” styles while calling EVERYONE else liars….yawn. 🫢
The 2 little piss ants are if nothing else, consistent…..consistently ignorant, belligerent and painfully entrenched in their “enlightenment”. 😂😂 It’s pretty fun just sitting back and watching the 2 cucks from down under continue to prove what ignorant ass wipes they truly are. I’ve known it, as have several others for awhile now but deliberately and consistently the Australian Atheist Cuckhold Couple (AACC) demonstrate how desperately they need attention by repeating ad nauseum the same tired behaviors and boring disingenuous “debate” styles while calling EVERYONE else liars….yawn. 🫢
The 2 little piss ants are if nothing else, consistent…..consistently ignorant, belligerent and painfully entrenched in their “enlightenment”. 😂😂 There seems to be a few consistencies with atheists. They know more about theology and church than most Christian’s They tend to base arguments about the metaphysical from a purely materialistic view of evolution. This is intellectually weak and dishonest. They make demands that God be understood by their criteria alone. They know too much about the Christian faith to have not been in it or seriously challenged by it. I hate to say it, but as previously noted, the 2 cucks may really be minions of evil.....look at our nation as a whole....no prayers in school, no pledge of allegiance, none of that...
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If you are referring to my discussion with mauser9mm, so who was discussing "Truth vs Belief"? Not us, and not any threads that I know of....and God did not enter on my part of the discussion....my conjecture was/is "evidence and proof are not the same" period. Although what you state above is agreeable with me, it has nothing to do with mauser and my discussions....thanks for your input.[/quote Faith in the existence of a God or gods is a belief. Having faith in the truth of something is a class of belief.
Belief may be based on faith or evidence. A justified belief - as opposed to faith - is justified through evidence, not faith.
The article gives a basic outline on justification. I would like to add, the word faith often has a deeper meaning. Belief often refers to an intellectual acceptance of facts. If you ask the average person on the street if he believes in Alexander the Great or Abraham Lincoln, he would probably interpret the question to mean, “Do you believe that such a person existed?” Most, no doubt, would answer in the affirmative. However, faith, in modern usage, has the added idea of trust and commitment.
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Deliberate obfuscation has clearly become a staple of atheist apologetics. Nothing of the sort. Terms and conditions have been given and supported by quotes and references. Not faith. Basic logic. I believe antlers means that obfuscation is the obscuring of the intended meaning of communication by making the message difficult to understand, usually with confusing and ambiguous language.
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