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Originally Posted by ingwe
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Who’s advocating initiating combat against the US Armed Forces?

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The armed forces all vowed to uphold the constitution.Shooting at or disarming the citizenry isn't going to fly with them.


At 19 I vowed to Protect and Defend Blah blah blah, I was going in the Army to grow up and get some skills training (Radio Communication) I couldn't tell you, at the time about the Constitution, etc... YEARS later I went to visit Philadelphia and Carpenter's Hall and that's where I learned the meaning of true patriotism.
The guys enlisting take the oath, but do they really understand what they're doing?

Like the street punks always saying "On my life..." when lying about something.


And these zombies line up and eat from the media’s trough

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The left calls the constitution a living, breathing document. Anything that lives and breathes can also be choked to death.


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I have always heard “as California goes, so goes the nation.”

Over the last 50 years it appears to be generally true.

What would California do to the 2nd, if it could?


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
The left calls the constitution a living, breathing document. Anything that lives and breathes can also be choked to death.
They also think there is unlimited genders and that biological males can have babies, so there is that.

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Sri Lanka has no Second Amendment, yet they walked in and threw the bums out and jumped in the pool. Globalism is actually failing. The dollar is dying as we experience its sudden depreciation at the pump, in the grocery store and everywhere else. The Empire is bankrupt and toothless abroad. Sanctions favoring Ukraine are enriching Russia, while driving Germany especially into a stronger economic union with Russia. It's natural and inevitable; technology plus limitless resources and labor. Pax Americana depends upon brainwashed masses at home. About half are gullible if not stupidly compliant. However, millions of voters have quietly switched to Republican, as if that's a solution. Unless the 2020 election is openly declared fraudulent and the register and counting apparatus is secured and kept honest, the future ones will be irrelevant. This is not in "Their" interest. FBI may have just committed accidental suicide. Home schooling is on the rise and some people are waking up. Many are reordering their economic practices to preserve their own. There's a glimmer of hope. Second Amendment is irrelevant to a spiritual and intellectual revolt. Things fall apart. Let's go, Brandon!

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Rights don’t come from the Constitution. Rights are natural. The right doesn’t cease to exist if government refuses to recognize it.

Following law doesn’t make you moral or ethical. All things legal aren’t ethical, nor things against the law unethical.

Be prepared to recognize that our government is not our friend and you may have to operate outside the law at some point. At some point, we may be forced to have a revolution. It is your duty as an American citizen to overthrow the government when it becomes tyrannical.


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Originally Posted by drop_point
Rights don’t come from the Constitution. Rights are natural. The right doesn’t cease to exist if government refuses to recognize it.

Following law doesn’t make you moral or ethical. All things legal aren’t ethical, nor things against the law unethical.

Be prepared to recognize that our government is not our friend and you may have to operate outside the law at some point. At some point, we may be forced to have a revolution. It is your duty as an American citizen to overthrow the government when it becomes tyrannical.
40% of Americans think that a civil war in the US is more likely than not within the next 10 years. Over half of Republicans feel that way.

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Originally Posted by ingwe
The armed forces all vowed to uphold the constitution.Shooting at or disarming the citizenry isn't going to fly with them.

How many in congress and the POTUS took the same vow and look at how they follow it.

When the SHF happens, The armed forces will follow the POTUS, Commander in Chief, because they will be of the same ilk.Look at the murder of the Jan 6 participant by the capital police. The FBI will follow the same.


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Originally Posted by drop_point
Rights don’t come from the Constitution. Rights are natural. The right doesn’t cease to exist if government refuses to recognize it.

Following law doesn’t make you moral or ethical. All things legal aren’t ethical, nor things against the law unethical.

Be prepared to recognize that our government is not our friend and you may have to operate outside the law at some point. At some point, we may be forced to have a revolution. It is your duty as an American citizen to overthrow the government when it becomes tyrannical.


Well said Sir!

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Originally Posted by ingwe
The armed forces all vowed to uphold the constitution.Shooting at or disarming the citizenry isn't going to fly with them.

How many in congress and the POTUS took the same vow and look at how they follow it.

When the SHF happens, The armed forces will follow the POTUS, Commander in Chief, because they will be of the same ilk.Look at the murder of the Jan 6 participant by the capital police. The FBI will follow the same.
Most of them in congress are there for monetary gain. Somehow congressmen and senators get very rich on their salaries. Those in the military certainly are NOT there to get rich. It's a completely different attitude.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
The left calls the constitution a living, breathing document. Anything that lives and breathes can also be choked to death.

Certainly true and good point about why the left holds that view!


Biden's most truthful quote ever came during his first press conference, 03/25/21.
Drum roll please...... "I don't know, to be clear." and THAT is one promise he's kept!!!
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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
So, is it your contention that the "Bill of Rights" is immune somehow from being amended?

Care to expound on the legal theory behind that?

Because actually, even the content of Article 1 has been amended.
Just where was the 1st Amendment amended?

I was not asked, but I will reply, the Bill of rights is help out f the hands of government, they are in fact sacrosanct. The only way the government can overtake them is for the general public to be lazy and sit on their hands instead of changing the government as is their Right to do.

The Federal government is enjoined from denying you your Right to keep and bear arms. since 2015 the States have been enjoined from that as well, we are all just pussies and allow an overarching group of self absorbed rulers to hold sway over all of us instead of running their rear ends out of town.

I am ashamed that we are even discussing removing the 2nd, for any who would be amenable to that, GFY.


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Article 1 and the First Amendment are two different things. Article 1 is about the powers of Congress, and is not in the Bill of Rights.

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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Ah, good. Somebody gets it. With no shutdown, every city in the nation would have looked like New York.

And in that kind of crisis, nobody would have been poking their head out of doors anyway.

It is a world wide pandemic. Without mediation efforts, it would have been equivalent to 1918-1919. The economy was going in the toilet regardless of what action we took. Shutdowns at least mediated the initial spread of the virus, and gave us some control over that slide into the toilet.

We have a damned long way to go before we are out of this quagmire. Viable treatment protocols will take much of the pain out of the situation.
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Wonder how many members here have a copy of the US Constitution and the Federal Papers and have read both?


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Originally Posted by AussieGunWriter
Wonder how many members here have a copy of the US Constitution and the Federal Papers and have read both?
I have, and the Anti-federalist papers too. I also have read all three iterations of the TN Constitution, and no one pays any attention to it either.


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My sig line for ages.

Good to see I'm not the only one with a recurring earworm from the thread title.

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Originally Posted by ingwe
Originally Posted by JohnnyMac007
Who’s advocating initiating combat against the US Armed Forces?

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The armed forces all vowed to uphold the constitution.Shooting at or disarming the citizenry isn't going to fly with them.

Didn't seem to bother MacArthur, Patton and Eisenhower when Hoover sent them against the bonus army WW1 vets.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by drop_point
Rights don’t come from the Constitution. Rights are natural. The right doesn’t cease to exist if government refuses to recognize it.

Following law doesn’t make you moral or ethical. All things legal aren’t ethical, nor things against the law unethical.

Be prepared to recognize that our government is not our friend and you may have to operate outside the law at some point. At some point, we may be forced to have a revolution. It is your duty as an American citizen to overthrow the government when it becomes tyrannical.
40% of Americans think that a civil war in the US is more likely than not within the next 10 years. Over half of Republicans feel that way.

Unfortunately, a Civil War implies something altogether different than a Revolution. I just wonder, what the sides will be and who will prove victorious.


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