Sorry Bert, I just read your post. The 250's group just fine. I thought I saved my last target, but I must have thrown it out. I fired 5 shots last Friday afternoon at 75 meters. First an third shots were cuting one another, 1 inch above a 1 inch bullseye. 2nd and 4th shots were cutting one another about 1 inch above the other two. Windage was dead on so I left everything alone figuting I was all set out to 150 ot 175 yards. Once again, thet was over 47 grains of IMR 4227 powder with a MMI sabot. CCI 209 primers. O