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Obama took the oath a month ago--how can you tell if he's different? At this point, he's hired more Washington insiders--just like every other prez for the past 2-3 generations. And he has been primarily focused on continuing where Bush left off--on the Main Street Bailout. Just what "policy" is different in the last 4 weeks?

I'm sure if I could afford an electron microscope, I could discern a difference between the Blue Team and Red Team leaders--but from out here in the colonies, things look kinda' purple in Washington..........


Casey

Tom, 2 very good posts from you today.....


You voters that think there is no difference between red and blue need to think in extreme terms. Was there a difference between Carter and Reagan?

You know, I was reading this thread just out of curiosity and wasn't really going to post, and I didn't want my first post since joining to be like this but I feel I have to after reading the above post. I don't care WHO you voted for, simply implying that you wish that the President of the United States would be assassinated is inexcusable. So you want to see our country spiral even farther down the tubes? Because a blow like that would only kick us while we are down. There is no occasion where such a sentiment is even remotely appropriate. And I know you were most likely joking but there are some things one does not joke about.

A lot of non-shooters and non-hunters think we're ignorant already. Thanks for proving them right in your case.

I voted for McCain as most Alaskans did. Obama is a Priss and I know him from his hitting on college Freshman when he was a 3rd year Law student. He was the anointed one then as he is now.

I think that the GOP cognesti knew that that the FDIC and the general banking industry were going to tank during the primaries. They decided to let McCain who was a RINO but with some conservative elements run but they did so without 100% enthusiasm.

I think that these individuals know that Barack is in for a wild ride. The margins and debt haven't even started realizing their true potential.

I have heard a figure that our lending institutions(Banks) are presently close to 4$ Trillion in the red. That is the sum of their negative ink. Single unemployed illegal alien mothers who work at Walmart getting 200K loans on MCCrackerjack boxes. The sum of this is that the actual real estate value on many of these is 20K. When the mother loses her job she walks back over the border and lets the MS13 wreck the place. The bank is then out 200K.
The same thing happens when a couple buys a 400 K huntington beach house and they walk after losing their jobs. The bank loses that money too.
The FDIC presently requires banks to have 1.25% in cash reserves and the FDIC has only 110 billion in their reserve fund. This means that there could easily be a massive financial event that hits the banks and causes a depositor run and the bank's collapse.

I don't know if you folks have noticed that Obama has got Volker and most of Reagan's outfit to do financial battle and he is not really into Reich's new deal policy. This is because BHO knows that the rubber has hit the road and the SHTF.

I think that it is time to hunker down and grab the popcorn. Most of us on the forum, even those who voted for the "blessed" one are probably more prepared than the general population. However, now is the time to buy physical silver and shotgun shells because I am darned sure that you guys have your black rifle, mag and ammo supplies up.

Pull your savings and sit in silver. It may drop but mark my words by July you'll be saying. That crazy guy in Alaska saved my bacon.

Sincerely,

Thomas

Welcome to the 'fire.

I didn't much care for the Bush bashing either.

Thanks...now to go read a good thread

If you voted for Obama you saw on TV tonight you wasted your vote.

Because he talks of alternative energy instead of developing nuclear and domestic drilling, he never mentions those, McCain did. Alternative energy or not, we will be big oil users for at least the next twenty years, why send that money abroad, keep the dollars and jobs here.

I know you can see a difference in their attitudes on the second amendment.

Although I am pro-choice in the first trimester, I can see a huge difference between McCain and Obama, McCain pro-life, Obama pro-choice with no limitations..


McCain's record on pork spending in the congress and Obama's are night and day.

Tough on terrorism, although McCain has personal experience and is opposed to torture as is Obama, I didn't hear McCain advocating trials for terrorist. He supported a increase in troops for the surge, Obama wanted to cut and run.


Illegal immigration we are screwed from both directions..

Geeze, it's just not that hard, fellas.

Another voice of reason, welcome to the site.

Hum it seems like the surge worked. But you know Obama and the Media haven't acknowledged that. We had the biggest loss in Iraq in 9 months today 4 men to a suicide bomber in a car.

Funny how the libtards just over look that stuff because it doesn't fit their agenda.

Hope and change were the masterful use of projection. What did it mean? Whatever you wanted it to.

What do you suppose would happen to the economy if we were to get another 9/11 type attack?

I mean we're down, why not kick us just as hard as they could?

I could tell before he got elected. Far to liberal for my tastes. And he does the sidestep and teaberry shuffle quite well. A master at the old shell game.

If you thought both guys were weak, you shouldn't have even voted. People seem to think they HAVE to vote. I usually consider voting a "duty" but if I don't respect either candidate, neither one will earn my vote. Besides, if you don't like either one, you can always make a statement about the 2 party system by casting a vote for a 3rd party or write in.

I was going to do a write in candidate for the first time in my life, until that gal from Alaska came on the scene.
Then I thought "what if McCain kicked the bucket, hmmmm, Palin would be president" so he/she got my vote.

.... never mind.

I don't feel like talking politics <G>...

Nobamster .... a "good job!?"

You're as 'bright' as 'heff o!

I only asked a question!

Given certain "scenarios" and "conditions," its only a matter of time before the terrorists try!

And however many times that actually might be.

They only need be successful 'once' (per mission or campaign).

Our folks have to be 'right' 100% of the time! But no doubt, the BG's are coming.

Giving my take on the differences between the Obama vs. McCain vote to no one in particular:

1. Obama campaigned under the guise that he KNEW what needed to be done to fix the economy. Now he is back-peddling by saying he did not know it was so bad. Either he deliberately lied in campaign rhetoric or he was clueless as to the real aconomic issues...or both. McCain certainly did not come off so cock-sure about a quick-fix.

2. Our greatest financial impacts revolve around our mortgage/banking/financing situation. Those problems were primarily created by liberal legislation forcing our financial institutions to lend money to unqualified buyers in order to fill low income and minority quotas. Many Republicans went along with this liberal agenda because they were afraid to be stigmatized as rascist for standing against it. It was the mass default on those loans which helped bring on our financial crises...but remember it was primarily the fault of liberal legislation, not who was president at the time. We cannot fix problems caused by liberal legislation with bailouts or with more liberal legislation...those policies need abandoned and replaced with free-market economy policies and the right for instituitons to set their own lending rules so they and the buyers are solely responsible for their own risks. Bailing out liberal policies will be a continual drain on the economy for they never allow the institutions to set in place the policies to correct the lending requirements.

3. You cannot just vote for a President personally, you need to look at the larger picture and see what policies and legislation will be enabled by the party in power. It is the purpose of the primaries to set forth the best candidates. When that fails than we should look to which party will best represent our constitution in the legislation and appointments. You need to look at what each party's main agenda and support base represent and then whether the President will enable or stand against that agenda. We know the Democrats are now run by socialists and Obama is of the same stripe, therefore a vote for Obama was a vote against the Constitutional form of government conceived by our founders, our free market economy, and against the very fundamentals of our American society. A vote for Obama is therefore essentially a vote against the fundamentals of what America stands for.

4. If McCain were President he also would facing the same challenges as Obama with no easy fix...but he knew that going in and would not be so apt to be knee-jerk in his approach to fix it. It was obvious he thought the economy was in bad shape or he would not have sought a pass on a debate to work on the economy in congress. The congress probably had no option but to bailout the banking system in order to avoid meltdown. Now they have a bit of a breather to introduce a stimulus package or legislation which will help the economy correct by promoting business. Promoting stimulus programs which will need a constant supply of money to operate will never fix the economy.

Some of the essential things which need to happen to fix this economy are relieving companies of liberal policy business mandates and high taxes. Relieving businesses of those two items will do more to create jobs and provide revenue back to the government through personal income taxes than any tax cuts on income never earned will. Relieving businesses of the liberal policy requirements and taxes will increase their profit margins and allow them to hold on to employees at risk. As for personal taxes, I would rather pay them at the same level on real income than having a tax cut on income I don't have the ability to earn.

This approach, to some extent, would have been far more likely to happen through McCain than Obama.

5. Finally, any agenda which trades fundamental citizen rights to fix an economic problem or advance a social cause is destined to destroy the foundations upon which the whole structure stands. Again our whole American system is far more at risk with Obama in power than with McCain as President or Palin serving as President. Palin has proven her ability to administrate...Obama has not. Palin does not have national experience, but neither did Obama--therefore both would need to learn. Palin would have done far more to guide this country in line with the constitution than Obama will.

Obama is seeking to set this nation on a course which will eventually destroy its foundations, if left unchecked, and we may never be able to recover from that impact, an impact which will be far worse than what we presently face.

Yes the Republicans have made serious mistakes also...primarily because they left their conservative roots and tried to meet liberals in the middle. This is a wake-up call to Republicans and conservative Democrats to stand up for their country.

Every American ought to think about this before its too late...