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Here's my plan.

Stress to my kids that they need to learn career skills which will make them welcome in other countries.

This one is going to be eaten from within and without.

It is coming, my only regret is I will have to watch it unfold, not actually march to orders.

Don't worry, T. We can set you up in a tree stand with a pot of coffee a nice line of sight all around.

Last night I went out to dinner with my next door neighbor. He's a very conservative, religious, kind and decent man. He doesn't read the fire, he's not into conspiracy theories, he's not anti-American or into anything wacko. Just a middle of the road good hearted American.

For the first time in his life he's truly concerned over whether or not America will survive, intact, the current fiasco that's in Washington.

It was a very interesting to hear his views.

Why be heartbroken? Jefferson repeatedly said that freedom required such actions every so often to maintain freedom and stop the inevitable decay into tyranny.

One should look upon such talk as a positive, not only that we still have the right to discuss it, but care enough to consider it.

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The fail safe here is this November, IF the votes go the right way and we can gridlock The Supreme Muslim.

Steve;

You just reinforced my point. Folks on both/either/neither side are just getting sick and tired of getting screwed by .gov, regardless of who/which party is in office.

There are more than a few that see it not as a shredding of the Constitution, but of a .gov/system that itself has already shredded at least the spirit, if not in fact the word, of that same Constitution, of the documents before and underlying it, and of the Founders.

The "hard work that needs to be done", is (at least in the minds of a growing number) not necessarily the same as what you think it is. Again, that (and, no offense) may be due to a difference in station/position in life.

Steve, I agree with some points but it doesn't take a genius to look at the changing demographics here in this country and recognize that Anglo influence is dissipating.

Now if you believe that African Americans and Mexican's will be as benevolent in majority as Anglos were in the second half of the 20th century through today and that our own version of Rhodesia; South Africa etc., is impossible, then so be it.

But one need only look at the benevolence of said people in major cities, where they have majority control, to truly see where our future lies.

Steve,

Bud, if you notice, I'm raising the fact that this trend concerns me. The fact that these discussions are ACTUALLY happening more and more, concerns me.

I agree that what the soldiers were doing is illegal, that's why I gave them a fair warning. I understand their concern though. I understand the absolute frustration that both conservatives and liberals are having with the folks in Washington. It's not one ideology waring with another. It's the anger that the masses feel towards the political class. The elected representatives that betray their voters at every turn. No matter what party or ideology they come from. Americans at every level feel betrayed, and are angry.

Like you, I thought this kind of talk was for the extreme wierdo's out there. I'm merely pointing out that it's now gotten to a place where the normal folks are asking the questions.

Also, like you, I believe the vast majority of Americans (myself included) still believe in the Rule of Law.

I think the majority of people that are upset are not for "shredding the Constitution" but rather for upholding it in the face of those who ARE shredding it in Washington. I don't for a second believe that people want to raise arms and kill each other. I DO believe that they feel SOMETHING needs to be done, because things are failing left and right.

,..and elect who?

The same GOP that was on board for amnesty and the bank bailout,....and doubled the national debt during the 8 years they held office last time?

Let me know how that works out for ya.

I think the majority of people that are upset are not for "shredding the Constitution" but rather for upholding it in the face of those who ARE shredding it in Washington.

I don't for a second believe that people want to raise arms and kill each other.

I DO believe that they feel SOMETHING needs to be done, because things are failing left and right.

My apologies for not communicating that clear enough.

Some type of activity will make itself known when the Federal government can no longer afford to pay out its obligations,..and that's coming sooner than most people think.

When the annual deficit stands at a trillion dollars and stands no chance of being reduced in subsequent years, something is getting ready to give.

For me, the realization that we were in *real* trouble was when the national debt doubled in 8 years,...and when the federal reserve started taking the nation's wealth and passing it around to its cronies.

The fat cats know what's up.

Trust me, the sign you put down is plenty clear enough...........