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I have a Beretta 390 that I just love. It has performed flawlessly until this year and I dont think I can blame the gun. I have about 12,000 rounds through it.
I have been trying to find a good lubricant and I bought some synthetic stuff that said it was good down to -70F. Since I rarely go out if it is colder than -69F, I figured that was good. In all serioiusness, I routinely hunt to 0F in Minnesota and once in a while will hunt to -10F. Coldest so far was -22F. The action slams shut super quick in the house and then while deer hunting this year at about 15F, I shot a doe in the lungs and she took off. The gun jammed. I managed to get 3 shots into her, but was flabbergasted that I had experienced a jam. After she was dead, I noticed that the action closed super s-l-o-w-l-y. Back in the house later, it slammed shut fast again. So much for the lubricant. I have sinced been used that one again with the same result while pheasant hunting around the same temps. I am thinking that I just need to change to a better cold weather lube. Can someone recommend one?
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God forbid that I ever have to be in cold like you lot have...I just use the old Military formula Breakfree that a fellow I know nicked from the army.
I ended up with some nine litres.
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A friend of mine has an ex who could have used some cold "weather" lubricant.
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deflave...does CLP work in EXTREME cold conditions...like -20f
I don't always venture out into the sub-freezing darkness, but when I do, it is deer hunting season, and I carry a Remington. Stay hungry my friends.
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deflave...does CLP work in EXTREME cold conditions...like -20f If so, it may have helped by buddy slide past the permafrost.
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Hey Travis,
Is that an acronym or if I ask for it will they know what that is? Since you are in MT, I am sure it gets plennnny cold there. By the way, I think this will be the first time I get to tell you to GFY! Thanks for the recommendation.
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In extreme cold, totally degrease and replace with graphite.
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A thin film of Shooters Choice All Temp red grease.
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Hey Travis,
Is that an acronym or if I ask for it will they know what that is? I think he's trying to say he has a Child Like Penis
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EdM...Ezzox freezes up in extreme cold
I don't always venture out into the sub-freezing darkness, but when I do, it is deer hunting season, and I carry a Remington. Stay hungry my friends.
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I know the Finns in WW 2, cut their gun oil lube with gasoline...
thinned the gun oil down by 75%...
in combat in cold weather, their firearms worked...
the Russians firearms were jamming...
dilution will lower the viscosity of the gun oil..
I use to hunt with in laws between Chisholm and International Falls.....father in law, used synthetic gun oil mixed 50/50 with Kerosene in an old Semi Auto Winchester 351... it never had a jamming problem.
I used a Rem 700 bolt gun and a 444 Marlin, and his gun lube concoction and never had an issue...but those are easier not to jam, than a semi auto..
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CLP - Cleaner Lubricant Protection And yes, this works as a cold weather lube for my applications, but I don't use semi-autos, though I do hunt in weather as cold as yours, as I'm in MN also. CLP is or at least was the standard issue military lubricant.
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G96 gun oil is good to -65.
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CLP by Break-Free. I've used it on my semi-auto shotgun for many years, shooting upland birds in temperatures down to -20 degrees F with no problems, at least not with the gun cycling properly (couldn't say the same about the dogs or me at those temperatures). I've tried a few other products that did slow the action down or totally seized up in real cold weather, but haven't had it happen with CLP.
You mentioned the action closing slowly. I try to use very little on the action when getting ready to use it in really cold weather.
I looked at the website for TSI 301 that was recommended above. It showed a comparison to WD-40 and states that TSI 301 has a pour point of -60 degrees F while WD-40 pours down to -100 degrees F. I've tried WD-40 many years ago, and had it seize up my gun at temps below zero, and was part of the reason I ended up going to CLP. Based on pour points, it looks like TSI-30 could seize up at warmer temperatures than WD-40, so I'd assume they'll both seize up at temps warmer than what CLP will function in.
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Nothing. Degrease the action and firing pin and run it dry. Maybe sprinkle a little powdered graphite in the bolt raceway if necessary, but no liquids.
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Berettaman, a very lite coat of CLP should do the trick. However, it sounds like you probably are starting to have recoil spring issue's (the spring in the butt stock) it's a cheap easy fix, try it!
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Use CLP sparingly, and clean, lube, protect, and probably replace the recoil spring.
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