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Originally Posted by ironbender
It's streamed on Fox.com, Bob.

So it's now summations Thurs PM and Fri AM?

Still sticking with verdict by cocktails?


Molotov cocktails? grin


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If the jury will be instructed on them, they can be argued.


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Originally Posted by ironbender
Also, can O'Mara argue to the jury against manslaughter and ag assault in his close


And ... will they receive the instructions before the closing arguments?

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
"Yep, a powerful alliance has formed to destroy him, such to make an example against civilian armed self-defense. On his side, however, are the facts, the law, and hopefully a jury of his peers."


I've posted this before in another thread but I'll post it again.

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" ... on a serious note, how is being judged by women a jury of your peers? ...


L.W. - "Just as a point of clarification, that phrase, "a jury of one's peers," is NO WHERE in the Constitution or Bill of Rights.

Bill of Rights, Article Six: " In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right, to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and District wherein the crimes shall have been committed ... "

No "peers" in there.

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Still sticking with verdict by cocktails?
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If jury gets the case by 5 on Friday,it could well be less than 3 hours.


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No but counsel will know what's going to be in the instructions before they argue.


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Originally Posted by fish head
Originally Posted by ironbender
Also, can O'Mara argue to the jury against manslaughter and ag assault in his close


And ... will they receive the instructions before the closing arguments?

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Yes to both questions.


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Originally Posted by AkMtnHntr
Originally Posted by gitem_12
Originally Posted by Barkoff
Originally Posted by fish head
At the moment GZ shot TM he had no choice. However, he did have a choice in the events leading up to the confrontation.

???

Is there any legal logic to that?


I don't think so, unless somebody has made it against the law to form neighborhood watches...maybe only the Feds can watch your neighborhood.



Personally. I see this as two seperate confrontations. Z ended the firat went he started to return to his vehicle. TReadmark initiated the second. With the sucker punch


Just a quick question gitem_12, how is that a confrontation? Zimmerman never made contact with the thug TM until he (TM) punched GZ in the face. There was only 1 confrontation and it was created by the thug TM.



" they". Have been saying that Z started the "confrontation". By getting out of his truck. Therefore starting all of this. I should have worded it better with "confrontation". My belief is that even had Z made contact with Martin that (1st) "comfrontation" ended when Z returned to his truck. Martin created the second by backtracking and attacking Z.
Had ne not done that, the fatal conflict would have never happened. It is also my belief that this "second" confrontation shoukd have been brought into play more than it was in court. But i admit i havent wtched much of the trial maybe it was


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Originally Posted by CaneSlinger
Could this whole dog and pony show be a poly to incite a race war so the powers that be can declare martial law and run rough shod over everyone's constitutional rights?


Stocked up on the ole tin foil are we?

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Originally Posted by GreenHead
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Could this whole dog and pony show be a poly to incite a race war so the powers that be can declare martial law and run rough shod over everyone's constitutional rights?


Stocked up on the ole tin foil are we?




As of late i would not put that past this administration


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Originally Posted by toltecgriz
No but counsel will know what's going to be in the instructions before they argue.

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Yep. There will be morning motions as to the lesser includeds, as well.


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Originally Posted by isaac
Still sticking with verdict by cocktails?
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If jury gets the case by 5 on Friday,it could well be less than 3 hours.
From what was on Fox at noon here,there are 7 charges against GZ and I'm thinking the jury will have a verdict either late Monday or Tuesday.


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Originally Posted by isaac
Originally Posted by fish head
Originally Posted by ironbender
Also, can O'Mara argue to the jury against manslaughter and ag assault in his close


And ... will they receive the instructions before the closing arguments?

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Yes to both questions.


Originally Posted by T-Griz
No but counsel will know what's going to be in the instructions before they argue.
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Are you both referring to the jury having the instructions before summations?


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The jury has been sequestered for 18 days now. If they get the case before 5 on Friday, they may ask the court to begin deliberating right away just to get the initial vote. They don't want to be there another full weekend in sequestration.

Practically, your thinking is more along the lines of likelihood.


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I know one thing that POS Judge looks just like Chris Farley in drag .


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This case, nor any other, should be on TV. Ever. It's nothing more than daytime entertainment for lawyer wanna be's and networks getting rich off the back of dead kid and his killer. The most pathetic of the wannabes is the POTUS and his clan of nimrods who are using this kid for their own gain as well. A lot of kids have been killed since this incident, yet nobody cares. Trevon's life is not worth more or less than any others. It's a tragedy for both sides and mockery of the justice system.

Nothing more than a modern day stoning under the guise of an advanced society.

America is above this nonsense...........

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Mike...the lawyers will know what jury instructions will be submitted. They then close having that info. They wrap up and jury goes behind closed doors.



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Isaac,would they deliberate over the weekend or are they only allowed to deliberate in the jury room?


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Is the jury instructed by the judge? That was my impression.

Or, does the jury retire with only the written instructions...or both?

From what I saw, I figured the attys were writing them to be approved by the judge?

Are jury instructions read? Before closings?


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The Judge will ask how they wish to handle it. Since they're sequestered, many opt to get on with it so they can go home and not [bleep] their husbands for another 20 days.


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