Just wanted to put in yet another plug for the old 250 Savage. Other forum members love it, and based on their reports I built my first in 2015 using a Savage Axis Stainless receiver as the platform and a 22.8” / 1-10 twist stainless sporter barrel that I ordered from ER Shaw. While I’ve built multiple rifles using the Axis as the platform—17 Remington, 222 Rem, 1-9 twist 22-250, 243 Win, 7mm-08, 25-06—the 250 Sav stands out for low blast and recoil, with a wider range of game applications than the rest. It has been particularly gratifying to update this classic with full pressure loads appropriate to a modern bolt action, using some of the latest powders (CFE223, Leverevolution, Reloader 16, IMR 7828 SSC, and now StaBall 6.5). 90 grain bullets at 3250 - 3300 FPS, 100 gr at 3000-3100, and 117-120 at 2800 to 2900 are all readily achievable loads in a modern bolt gun.
I’m glad to share load data with anyone who wants it. I’m looking forward to the arrival of my new 20” stainless barrel from Shaw, in order to build a handier woods version of the first one from 2015. These days I ask myself regularly, why in the world did I wait so long to discover this gem from the past? Why all the rage for the 6.5 Creedmoor, 6mm ARC, 6.8 SPC, 6.5 Grendel, etc, when we’ve had the 250 Savage all along? I know, each has his favorites, but for my purposes, the 250 could replace all the rest. It really is an overlooked masterpiece of cartridge design. And so easy to load for!
Good afternoon to all, and thanks to all of you who influenced me to resurrect this little wonder.
Knock yourself out. For the rest of us, now is a bad time to start futzing around with a new cartridge.
I often compare TOP Grendel loads with original .250 ones, and they don’t fare too badly. Just noticed yesterday that the .250 looks like one that does well with Sta Ball, in the book anyway, along with the 6CM, 7-08, and .270. Picked up a few jugs just before the Biden crunch.
The 250 Salvage can't begin to hang with a 243 Grendel or 6BR,especially a Salvage receiver wearing a 1-10" Shaw piece of fhuqking schit spout. Hint.
I've yet to encounter a chambering that was "difficult" to load for and I shoot a bunch more,than a bunch of chamberings. Hint.
Pass the 224 Speedmire and 90 Beer Cans,if/when talking 250 Salvage hulls. Hint.
The 22 PPC AFI slaps the 250 Salvage silly,with less powder,blast and recoil. Likely a 1-7" Bart' at 21",on the newest boltgun...but I have multiple in 20-22" Krunchentickers from 1-8" to 6.5" too. Hint.
I enjoyed your Delusions and thanks for the fhuqking laughs!
I, too, have a Savage Axis with an E.R. Shaw barrel. I bought the barrel on sale from MidwayUSA. To make the ammo feed properly, I had to buy a 22-250 magazine. The 24" Shaw barrel is very accurate. I am able to match the velocities you quote above for the most part, but I don't know about 117 grain bullets at 2,800-2,900 fps. Enjoy this classic old chambering.
Bought my first 250 Savage, a Ruger 77RL in 1983 after reading a lot about it. Then reamed to Ack Imp and had more fun with it. Bought a few more in Ruger 77’s and even a Ruger No.1A. Now I’m down to three, a Shilen barrel Ack Imp 77 Mark II, and two 77R rifles for my two sons. I think I’ve owned about every 25 caliber cartridge made at one time or another, but the 250 Savage doesn’t go away. I’ve said many times a manufacturer should have produce a 25/08 or 258, just use the 243/308 case for a basis.
Got a Shaw barrel with my old Tang Safe M77 in shipment right now, the old barrel had plenty of use and just got too finicky. I also have a M99R .250-3000 and the two rifles have made it plain over the years that it's a fine deer hunting cartridge.
Are you in MS, and if so, what part? Don't pay any attention to the "Big Stik." If anyone doubts that lead in paint can mess you up, he is proof positive.
I, too, have a Savage Axis with an E.R. Shaw barrel. I bought the barrel on sale from MidwayUSA. To make the ammo feed properly, I had to buy a 22-250 magazine. The 24" Shaw barrel is very accurate. I am able to match the velocities you quote above for the most part, but I don't know about 117 grain bullets at 2,800-2,900 fps. Enjoy this classic old chambering.
I'm shooting a 26 inch barrel T/C Custom shop barrel shooting the Hornady 117 gr SST bullet using a compressed charge of H-4831sc. This load chrono's at a sedate 2,660. It kills like the load is moving ever..ever much faster.
Just wanted to put in yet another plug for the old 250 Savage. Other forum members love it, and based on their reports I built my first in 2015 using a Savage Axis Stainless receiver as the platform and a 22.8” / 1-10 twist stainless sporter barrel that I ordered from ER Shaw. While I’ve built multiple rifles using the Axis as the platform—17 Remington, 222 Rem, 1-9 twist 22-250, 243 Win, 7mm-08, 25-06—the 250 Sav stands out for low blast and recoil, with a wider range of game applications than the rest. It has been particularly gratifying to update this classic with full pressure loads appropriate to a modern bolt action, using some of the latest powders (CFE223, Leverevolution, Reloader 16, IMR 7828 SSC, and now StaBall 6.5). 90 grain bullets at 3250 - 3300 FPS, 100 gr at 3000-3100, and 117-120 at 2800 to 2900 are all readily achievable loads in a modern bolt gun.
I’m glad to share load data with anyone who wants it. I’m looking forward to the arrival of my new 20” stainless barrel from Shaw, in order to build a handier woods version of the first one from 2015. These days I ask myself regularly, why in the world did I wait so long to discover this gem from the past? Why all the rage for the 6.5 Creedmoor, 6mm ARC, 6.8 SPC, 6.5 Grendel, etc, when we’ve had the 250 Savage all along? I know, each has his favorites, but for my purposes, the 250 could replace all the rest. It really is an overlooked masterpiece of cartridge design. And so easy to load for!
Good afternoon to all, and thanks to all of you who influenced me to resurrect this little wonder.
Once your go "250 Savage" you never go back to the other's.
The 250 Salvage can't begin to hang with a 243 Grendel or 6BR,especially a Salvage receiver wearing a 1-10" Shaw piece of fhuqking schit spout. Hint.
I've yet to encounter a chambering that was "difficult" to load for and I shoot a bunch more,than a bunch of chamberings. Hint.
Pass the 224 Speedmire and 90 Beer Cans,if/when talking 250 Salvage hulls. Hint.
The 22 PPC AFI slaps the 250 Salvage silly,with less powder,blast and recoil. Likely a 1-7" Bart' at 21",on the newest boltgun...but I have multiple in 20-22" Krunchentickers from 1-8" to 6.5" too. Hint.
I enjoyed your Delusions and thanks for the fhuqking laughs!
Hint................
Dang. I was going to rip you a new one till I saw it was Stick... then I decided to STFU. Have a great day!!!
Here’s some load data from the last 6 or so years, that I selected based on good velocity, good accuracy, or use of a powder for which little data is available. Work up to these carefully only in a modern bolt action; they are maximum but with normal case life, extraction, bolt lift etc. Caution. Velocities are corrected to the muzzle. All primers are Rem 9 1/2 std primers, cases Hornady 22-250 necked up. Hope this maybe be of help to someone:
A) Hornady GMX 90 gr; land contact 2.606”; loads -.013 to-.020” A1) 37.5 grs Leverevolution (LVR), 3275 fps. Repeated 0.5” to 0.6” two shot groups at 100 yds. A2) 39.7 grs CFE223, 3310 fps. Repeated 0.4” two-shot groups.
B) Sierra 117 Pro Hunter, LC 2.479”, best results at -.020” to .025” B1) 42.2C grs IMR 7828 SSC, 2810 fps. 1” three shot groups. Extremely low std deviations of 0.1 to 0.2% B2) 33.5 grs IMR 4166, 2816 fps. Very clean, very low blast B3) 35.3 grs LVR, 0.10” to 0.50” two-shot groups
C) Hornady 117 gr Round Nose. LC 2.427, set at -.012 to -.015”. 38.0 grs Reloader 16, 2830 fps. Ultra clean. No extended accuracy series done yet.
In general I’ve found Leverevolution to be more accurate than the very similar CFE223 in most of my different rifles. In my pure varmint guns it will often beat CFE223 for velocity.
You Brokedick Crying Karens are a fhuqking hoot and I enjoy that your STUPIDITY is no fhuqking "act"...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
The 250 Salvage is EASILY surpassed in terminal effects,drop and drift,with chamberings burning farrrrrr less powder. Why? Bullets matter wayyyyyy more than headstamps,you Stupid Fhuqk. Hint.
Pardon my shooting it all and then some. Hint.
Bless your heart for Whining,Crying and Trying.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!...................
303Cabbage,
You MAGNIFICENT Whining Day Dreaming CLUELESS Fhuqktard,I get a kick out of how "real" your Imagination and Pretend are to you...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so you can "afford' to "contribute". Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
You keep regaling your EPIC Homoerotic Fantasies,via your perpetual Vagina Monologue. Hint.
Do tell,just how many times a day you think about me. Hint.
You Brokedick Crying Karens are a fhuqking hoot and I enjoy that your STUPIDITY is no fhuqking "act"...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
The 250 Salvage is EASILY surpassed in terminal effects,drop and drift,with chamberings burning farrrrrr less powder. Why? Bullets matter wayyyyyy more than headstamps,you Stupid Fhuqk. Hint.
Pardon my shooting it all and then some. Hint.
Bless your heart for Whining,Crying and Trying.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!...................
303Cabbage,
You MAGNIFICENT Whining Day Dreaming CLUELESS Fhuqktard,I get a kick out of how "real" your Imagination and Pretend are to you...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so you can "afford' to "contribute". Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
You keep regaling your EPIC Homoerotic Fantasies,via your perpetual Vagina Monologue. Hint.
Do tell,just how many times a day you think about me. Hint.
Bless your heart.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!...............
Is that a No it can't kill deer or is it a Yes? Thanks
I've "only" killed Venison with my fist,foot,sticks,rock,Pistole,Recurve,Compound,Crossbow,Rifle,Scattergun,Smokepole,Pickup,1-3/8" swaged mainline and likely a few I'm forgettin'...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
If you wish to be well shy of a good 223's performance,a 250 Salvage will certainly arrange same. As .473" boltfaces go,it is assuredly an EPIC Piece Of Fhuqking Schit. Hint.
K-Hornet. Hint. LAUGHING!
17 Remington. Hint. LAUGHING!
You CLUELESS Crying Fhuqktards are a hoot!
Bless your heart,for doing your best,with what INCREDIBLY little you "have" to "work" with.
Ain’t no big deal fellas: chihuahuas and fragile egos are known to bark a lot; they’re generally harmless, and best ignored. But that 250 Savage, now, that’s worth talking about. Info on StaBall 6.5 and the 250 are forthcoming. . . Would love to hear more of your pet loads.
Killed one with a knife and another with an axe,if it "helps" your lactating Vagina Monologue? Hint. LAUGHING!
Bless your heart,for doing your best,with what INCREDIBLY little you "have" to "work" with.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!...................
MSRiflegal,
You are welcome to your Delusional Dumbfhuqktitude...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Rest fhuqking ASSURED,that your Do NOTHING Dumbfhuqktitude and Brokedick "Build",ain't gonna match a multitude of chamberings,housing much less capacity and superior projectiles. Read that again. Now one more time. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Bless your heart.for your delusional Dumbfhuqktitude,you Amazingly STUPID Fhuqk.
A 1st gen Model Seven complete with walnut stock and snabble forend would make a nice retube to 250 Savage. A 20" bbl and 2-7 VX2 would be perfect little rifle.
Killed one with a knife and another with an axe,if it "helps" your lactating Vagina Monologue? Hint. LAUGHING!
Bless your heart,for doing your best,with what INCREDIBLY little you "have" to "work" with.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!...................
MSRiflegal,
You are welcome to your Delusional Dumbfhuqktitude...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Rest fhuqking ASSURED,that your Do NOTHING Dumbfhuqktitude and Brokedick "Build",ain't gonna match a multitude of chamberings,housing much less capacity and superior projectiles. Read that again. Now one more time. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Bless your heart.for your delusional Dumbfhuqktitude,you Amazingly STUPID Fhuqk.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!................
Truly impressive. I'm looking forward to some One Time at Loggin' Camp stories and maybe a few seal shooting fests.
A 1st gen Model Seven complete with walnut stock and snabble forend would make a nice retube to 250 Savage. A 20" bbl and 2-7 VX2 would be perfect little rifle.
Some one here on the campfire posted a picture of a Rem model 7 he had re-barreled to .250 savage, the perfect platform for a sleek lightweight .250 for sure.
I am VERY surprised,that you MUST "live" vicariously...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint. fhuqking LAUGHING!
It only takes 27grs of propellant,to slap a 250 Salvage around. Google as you must,nod your pointy head as you do and "convince" yourself that you "understand". Hint.
Pass the Montucky in 6XC. Which CRUSHES a 250 Salvage. Hint.
Or a Montucky in 6BR. Which CRUSHES a 250 Salvage. Hint.
It's your Imagination,simply Pretend with it as you must,to satiate the GAPING voids in your "life" as you "live" vicariously...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Still Pea Soup to the deck at the house,but once you gain some ele,it busts open. Only saw (4) Bucks this morning,which is well shy of the average. No wind and lotsa bugs. Hint.
Pard killed a pretty nice Buck this morning up high,while camping on 'em,with a 8" RPM 22-250 and a 88ELD(3075fps) at a trite 350yds. Pardon that too,slapping a 250 Salvage fhuqking silly. Google,as you must. Hint.
Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint
Pard killed a pretty nice Buck this morning up high,while camping on 'em,with a 8" RPM 22-250 and a 88ELD(3075fps) at a trite 350yds. Pardon that too,slapping a 250 Salvage fhuqking silly. Google,as you must. Hint.
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That 350 yard shot is well beyond the maximum effective range of a 250 Savage.
Said OEM rifle is "only" Supersonic to the 1350yd line at low tide,in this afternoon's atmosphere with an 88 and use ALL Of your Imagination and Pretend to concoct same in a 250 Salvage...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Looking through the scope,will "only" get it to the 1200yd line. Google as you must and nod your pointy head,like you "understand". Hint.
I get it,that the only things you "shoot" are your mouth and Imagination,you Magnificently STUPID Fhuqk. Hint.
Pard killed a pretty nice Buck this morning up high,while camping on 'em,with a 8" RPM 22-250 and a 88ELD(3075fps) at a trite 350yds. Pardon that too,slapping a 250 Salvage fhuqking silly. Google,as you must. Hint.
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That 350 yard shot is well beyond the maximum effective range of a 250 Savage.
Paul,
Not really, i killed a doe at a lasered "342" yards with the 117 gr SST bullet. I gladly admit quite a lot of holdover at that distance with the bullet impacting at the elbow. The Doe went about 30 + yards and down. A lucky shot? ABSOLUYELY. Would I do it again.....NOPE.
The 117 SST at your prescribed velocity,do thusly,if only for added hilarity. Hint.
In direct comparison to Today's victim,ala vanilla 22-250 and an 88. Hint.
The 88 essentially uses only 50% of the 117's wind correction,with obviously lesser flight time and of course greater impact velocity(nearly 600fps more). That's an EXCEPTIONALLY schitty trade in drop/drift,as well as terminal effects,not including your being in over your head start to finish. Hint.
A sub 1 Mil ele correction,is easily threaded ala 6x MQ and it's a breeze to shoot Meat in the face,at distances well beyond same. Hint.
The 117 SST at your prescribed velocity,do thusly,if only for added hilarity. Hint.
In direct comparison to Today's victim,ala vanilla 22-250 and an 88. Hint.
The 88 essentially uses only 50% of the 117's wind correction,with obviously lesser flight time and of course greater impact velocity(nearly 600fps more). That's an EXCEPTIONALLY schitty trade in drop/drift,as well as terminal effects,not including your being in over your head start to finish. Hint.
A sub 1 Mil ele correction,is easily threaded ala 6x MQ and it's a breeze to shoot Meat in the face,at distances well beyond same. Hint.
Bless your heart.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!..................
If I kill a deer at 157 yards with a 250 Savage it is less dead than if it's killed with an 88gr fired from a Creedmoor at the same distance?
He is imagining that he knows what that 88 grain match bullet will do to game animals at his fantasy distances. But hell, that's what the internet is for.
Ain't it a fascinating constant,that the only thing you can bring in the first hand to an Outdoors discussion,is your Imagination and Pretend...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so you can "afford" to "contribute". Pardon wares that exist,if only to your chagrin and drooling maw. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Here's to the Sweet "Satisfactions" that are your's,in your GoogleFu "Wares" and "Adventures". Simply pardon Reality,as you tickle them Ivories. No fhuqking wonder you are soooooo HILARIOUSLY vested,in "living" vicariously! Hint.
Oooooooopsie! On a Seex Kreedmire and 110 Sugars at 3025fps. Cheer up,I've only got (4) of 'em. Hint.
Bless your heart for trying though and I rather enjoy how "real" Pretend is,to you.
Just wanted to put in yet another plug for the old 250 Savage. Other forum members love it, and based on their reports I built my first in 2015 using a Savage Axis Stainless receiver as the platform and a 22.8” / 1-10 twist stainless sporter barrel that I ordered from ER Shaw. While I’ve built multiple rifles using the Axis as the platform—17 Remington, 222 Rem, 1-9 twist 22-250, 243 Win, 7mm-08, 25-06—the 250 Sav stands out for low blast and recoil, with a wider range of game applications than the rest. It has been particularly gratifying to update this classic with full pressure loads appropriate to a modern bolt action, using some of the latest powders (CFE223, Leverevolution, Reloader 16, IMR 7828 SSC, and now StaBall 6.5). 90 grain bullets at 3250 - 3300 FPS, 100 gr at 3000-3100, and 117-120 at 2800 to 2900 are all readily achievable loads in a modern bolt gun.
I’m glad to share load data with anyone who wants it. I’m looking forward to the arrival of my new 20” stainless barrel from Shaw, in order to build a handier woods version of the first one from 2015. These days I ask myself regularly, why in the world did I wait so long to discover this gem from the past? Why all the rage for the 6.5 Creedmoor, 6mm ARC, 6.8 SPC, 6.5 Grendel, etc, when we’ve had the 250 Savage all along? I know, each has his favorites, but for my purposes, the 250 could replace all the rest. It really is an overlooked masterpiece of cartridge design. And so easy to load for!
Good afternoon to all, and thanks to all of you who influenced me to resurrect this little wonder.
SO sorry as a new member to the campfire "Big Stick" has kidnapped your thread.
Pardon Facts upsetting you so,as you talk out your CLUELESS ass...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
The OP is simply an Amazingly STUPID Fhuqk,with nary a First Fhuqking Clue and I rather enjoy,that you are her witless match. Hint.
Bullets simply matter wayyyyyyyy more than headstamps,despite your being HILARIOUSLY inept in "understanding" same. You Delusional Day Dreaming DUMB Fhuqks never disappoint,by simply doing your best. Hint.
A 223 slaps your [bleep] silly. 75 ELD here. Hint.
I've been shooting and loading for the 250-3000 for over 50 years and think that it is a good cartridge that will kill varmints and medium game quite well within its performance envelope.
Just curious, but why have you chosen the Savage Axis to build around when there are so many Savage 110 series and even a few Marlin X actions out there that have the same barrel tenon specs?
260Remguy, a friend gave me a nearly new stainless Axis; I bought a Shaw kit from midway and got very accurate results with their 243 barrel. Then I started buying up new stainless Axis versions, some with the accutrigger, for as little as $300, and began ordering various barrels directly from Shaw. With careful break-in of their sporter-weight tubes I got better accuracy results than what I’d gotten with my Rem M700s. And I found it particularly gratifying to “resurrect” some of the almost forgotten cartridges like 17 Rem, 222 Rem, and particularly the 250 Savage.
I debated about building a 35 Rem next, but the 250 is so pleasant, and so “improvable” with modern propellants, that I opted to build another one with a 20” bbl. Charlie Newton, wherever you are, I hope you’re smiling and looking down with approval. Your little invention is a gem!
I like the 250-3000, but one Savage Axis was enough of an introduction to know that relationship was never going to work for me.
My preferred platform for ease of spinning barrel onto is the Marlin X gun, XL7 or XS7 depending on the COAL, since they use the same barrel tenon specs as the small shank Savage 110 and Axis series, making it so that swapping barrels and trying different cartridges can be safely done by anyone with a barrel nut wrench, a headspace gauge, a little manual dexterity, and some common sense.
If you really want Mr. Newton to smile down on you from shooters' heaven, get a barrel chambered in 256 Newton made up for one of your Savage Axis donor actions.
The 2 problems I’ve seen with the Axis are longer receiver length, and heavy bolt lift as compared to my M700s, Ruger 77, or Win Model 70. For example, the short action M700 has a 5.5” long receiver with a 2 3/8” long ejection port as compared to 7 / 3 3/8 with the Axis. The Axis port is covered on top with a thick strap of steel compared to the more open Remington design, so it’s not clear to me that the Axis receiver is subject to more torsional flexing. As I say above, the accuracy has been better. But a 24” bbl Axis makes for an equivalent length SA M700 of a 25.5” bbl. Long. This is why I’m looking for cartridges that work well with shorter bbl lengths like 222, 250 Sav, 35 Rem etc. The Axis design has an advantage over the SA M700 in that it is 1/2# lighter.
As to the bolt lift, it’s ridiculously easy to disassemble and polish the bolt internals, loosen the bolt nut, remove the washer that separates the two internal springs for a reduction in pretension etc in order to address the lift effort. And even the basic non-accutrigger is very easy to gunsmith toward a crisper lighter release.
So the Axis isn’t perfect, but it’s pretty inexpensive to produce a lightweight custom stainless steel gun with it that shoots excellent 100 yd groups with just a sporter weight barrel. Walmart was selling the stainless Accutrigger versions without scope for $310 within the last 4-6 months. That plus a $320 Shaw barrel (with shipping) gets you a custom stainless rifle in an unusual chambering for cheap. For me, at least, it’s been a compelling choice.
Ol bacon throat!!! Keep posting charts!! I’m sure you’re NOT gonna change the op’s mind!!! Haha but you sure sound cool!!! 😂😂
Btw, you’ve reached a all new low, swiping “imaginary “ pards pics and posting them?? Are you [bleep] me??? Haha “pards” are killin good alpine bucks yet you spend all day flapping your yap, you lazy pavement pounding cuunt you!!! 😂😂
Oh the dall sheep is so very impressive too!! Tenacious bastards, big thick hardy critters, do dig the Google and swipe pic skills though!! 😂😂
Like the old Yamaha motorcycle ad said, "Different Strokes For Different Folks".
Many things about the Axis don't work for me, particularly the ergs of the pistol grip, but they are cheap and, depending on your perspective, aesthetically unpleasing.
For a person not looking to swap barrels, I think that there are better ways to spend $630 than on a Savage Axis and a Shaw barrel, with the RAR-P and a Boyds stock coming immediately to mind. As a barrel swapper myself, I stocked up on the Mariin X guns when CDNN was closing them out tor $250 and even before that I was buying Remington 700 ADL Youth guns in 243 for around $325 to use as donor actions. I have a lathe and a mill, so I can do some less complicated metal work myself, like threading, chambering, and crowning a barrel, but the drop-in Savage specs barrels are a lot easier. The Savage take-off barrels aren't bad, but like most Savage barrels, they tend to have rougher bores than a good barrel maker would allow to leave their shop. That said, valve grinding compound and JB's work well to smooth out the rough spot when finishing a Savage barrel.
The trouble with Salvage(all of 'em),is that it's a fhuqking Salvage and feed/function are their perpetual bane. Hint.
Their fire control systems are fhuqking horrid too and few have their hearts more set,upon making a schittier handle than Salvage. Hint.
Though in fairness,I rather enjoyed the "careful break-in" notion and how it supposedly effects contour. Hint.
You Day Dreaming Delusional Fhuqktards are a HOOT! hint.
Few things more soothing,than Crying Karen and her Melting Snowflake Routine,which is assuredly no fhuqking "act"...emitting that High Pitched Nasal Whine repeatedly. Hint.
Very good points, 260Rem, particularly about character of the Savage bbls, advantage of mild abrasives for break-in etc. I had a base 22-250 Sav, which seated my sized brass + .008 to .009”. I reset it to approx +.003, used lapping compound for break-in with good results.
The trouble with Salvage(all of 'em),is that it's a fhuqking Salvage and feed/function are their perpetual bane. Hint.
Their fire control systems are fhuqking horrid too and few have their hearts more set,upon making a schittier handle than Salvage. Hint.
Though in fairness,I rather enjoyed the "careful break-in" notion and how it supposedly effects contour. Hint.
You Day Dreaming Delusional Fhuqktards are a HOOT! hint.
Few things more soothing,than Crying Karen and her Melting Snowflake Routine,which is assuredly no fhuqking "act"...emitting that High Pitched Nasal Whine repeatedly. Hint.
Bless your hearts for trying though.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!.................
Bacon throat!!! Please post some more swiped pics and charts!! “In a nasal whine”!!! Haha
The trouble with Salvage(all of 'em),is that it's a fhuqking Salvage and feed/function are their perpetual bane. Hint.
Their fire control systems are fhuqking horrid too and few have their hearts more set,upon making a schittier handle than Salvage. Hint.
Though in fairness,I rather enjoyed the "careful break-in" notion and how it supposedly effects contour. Hint.
You Day Dreaming Delusional Fhuqktards are a HOOT! hint.
Few things more soothing,than Crying Karen and her Melting Snowflake Routine,which is assuredly no fhuqking "act"...emitting that High Pitched Nasal Whine repeatedly. Hint.
Bless your hearts for trying though.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!.................
Bacon throat!!! Please post some more swiped pics and charts!! “In a nasal whine”!!! Haha
You be SURE to keep DESPERATELY clinging on to your Imagination and Pretend and making things "real"(for you)...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Pardon wares that exist,as you repeatedly visit your Fantasy World of Delusional Dumbfhuqktitude. Hint.
Seems the Creedmoor case was designed just to give Stick something to lip off about. So what if there are cartridges with better ranging qualities out there than the 250 Savage if it fits where you are hunting it is as good as anything out there.
Hey bacon throat, ANYTHING slaps around a .50 cal smokepole, but yet every year I kill bigger bulls than you’ve seen. It’s called HUNTING you fuucked up couch lizard!!😂😂 as you’ll note, the alpha glass and big tall turrets!!! Haha
You be SURE to keep DESPERATELY clinging on to your Imagination and Pretend and making things "real"(for you)...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Pardon wares that exist,as you repeatedly visit your Fantasy World of Delusional Dumbfhuqktitude. Hint.
Paul, bacon throat has to have every “advantage “ she can get, while pounding the loggin roads in search of the elusive rutted up Sitka dink.. naw, she’ll just post “pards” critters!! Haha 😂
Paul, bacon throat has to have every “advantage “ she can get, while pounding the loggin roads in search of the elusive rutted up Sitka dink.. naw, she’ll just post “pards” critters!! Haha 😂
Thanks for the cogent translation. I had no idea what it was spewing.
The INCREDIBLY long list of exceptionally well founded Insecurities,that Crying Karens "bravely" "contend",is simply funnier than fhuqk...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
"Surprisingly" the latest 250 Salvage Slapper is forming cases in the .3's,with .003" Lapooey Virgin constriction and squared 88 Smooches. Google as you must. Do NOT "forget",that Imitation is THE most Sincere form of Flattery. Hint.
Fortunately for you gals,Imagination and Pretend are free,so you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!.
No insecurities, funny you always mention them though!! 😂😂
Shiits only as hard as you make it. I guess “paradise “ shiit is really tough with a 7 month season and all, oh and the kelp eating grease pigs!!! Haha
You’re a fuucking joke LarryO!!! 😂😂
PS, does he like little boys or girls?? I’m gonna go out on a limb here, judging by your behavior, and say he likes boys…. Hint
Perhaps correlate just how many times you think about me on an average day,(not one of your "good" ones) and the duration of said encounters...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
You can almost punctuate for yourself. ALMOST. Hint.
Tough to beat AM steel 5-rounders for Utility and knowing me,I prolly gun 'em in a host of chamberings and a goodly smattering of blueprints. Hint.
Bless your heart for trying and keep them Insecurities rolling,if only due to how very badly you NEED them.
Bacon throat, the only one crying is you, as you can’t hit the alpine anymore… remember over 15 years ago when you told me that was the “time”, before I quit puttin up with your lip?? Haha
You poor washed up cull… prayers sent bitch! 😂😂🖕🏿🖕🏿
Your poignant Vagina Monologue extolling the voracity and magnitude of your countless,yet very WELL founded Insecurities is fhuqking EPIC Humor...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
I am VERY "surprised",that I control your every utterance,vernacular and punctuation,as you "live" vicariously and ferociously cling to my every word and Splendid Pixel. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
The 2.340" COAL,exceptionally consistent brass,amazing ES/SD and miserly propellant consumption,coupled with a .545 BC,just don't even same "fair". No wonder you rely so heavily on Imagination and Pretend,while obliviously extolling that Imitation is THE most Sincere form of Flattery. You keep fighting the "good" fight,with your Melting Snowflake Routine. Hint.
Bless your heart for trying and who could blame you for plagiarism,given your "abilities".
Woweee! You gals "get" to "do" it "all"...you "lucky" kchunts. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Pardon,simply shooting more than a "few" Rimfires to 700yds++,though I'm "unfamiliar" with a 375. Perhaps muse some of those "particulars",for even more Oblivious Humor. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Fortunately for you gals,Imagination and Pretend are free,so you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.
My Engleeshe Skeelz are without peer and I reckon it plum flattering,that even a STUPID Fhuqk such as yourself,knows her best and "only" move is to steal same...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Your Woke Lady Friend Brokeball was trying to muse a 375,but you were Whining so loudly and so enthralled with your Vagina Monologue,that you missed it. You two CLUELESS Kchunts make a pair and it'll only come as a surprise to you,that a pair is plural. Hint.
Pardon the poignant profundity of my Verbiage and Pixels,having such sway upon you and fueling your countless and exceptionally WELL founded Insecurities in such conclusive manner. Hint.
It is fascinatingly HILARIOUS,how your Stupidity melded with your Breathalizer Reading,sooooooo magnificently fuels your exceptionally WELL founded Insecurities...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
I nearly forgot to open yesterday's Mail,a few minutes ago. If only to fuel more of your Insecurities. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Oh it's a WHOLE bunch fhuqking funnier than that,despite your inability to grasp same...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
The poignant profundity of my allure,is beyond palpable and Imitation remains THE most Sincere form of Flattery. I enjoy watching Moths fly to The Flame. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Perhaps claim yet again that you have me on Imaginary Pretend Ignore,if only to correlate yet again,that besides being a Whining CLUELESS Fhuqk,that you also just 'happen" to be a Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit to boot...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
I get it,that you fixate my EVERY word and Splendid Pixel,if only due the fact that you are forced by default to "live" vicariously. Pardon wares that exist,as you laude in the Sweet "Satisfactions" that are your's,that fortunately for you Imagination and Pretend are free,so you can "afford" to "contribute". Read that again. Now one more time. Hint. fhuqking LAUGHING!
Feel free to cite how many times a day you think about me. Hint.
Bless your heart for Lying,Trying,Crying and Whining.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!............
'fin,
The OP is in well over her head,as is the Paper Hat Brigade...which never ain't not EPIC fhuqking hilarity. Hint.(grin)
The astute are taking notes and applying same,while Melting Snowflakes submit more Hurt Feelers Reports and Google a FIRST Fhuqking Clue to no avail. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!.......................
Mornin’ bacon throat!!! Looks like you’re doin so well here!! You have stuff!! Possessions, lotsa parcels to open, you’ve got so much stuff!!! You glutinous [bleep]!! Hand some “pard” pics you worthless couch lizard!! Haha
You Crying Karen melting Snowflakes are a "rugged" lot for sure and I rather enjoy your inability to control your Emotions and it's fascinating to watch your clocks align...you "lucky" kchunts. Hint. Congratulations?!?
The newest 22PPC Alaskan Fhuqking Improved,do assuredly dazzle and I found a somewhat leeward bight,where the Full Value Wind was only at two-thirds throttle. Confirmed DOPE to 900yds first,then went to Transonic Slip(1300yds) and it was money to/fro. Hats off,to glass that tracks. Google it. Hint.
The rain/wind/fog,seemingly scared the fish off and the Deer blended in nicely. Hint. Laughing!
Fortunately for you CLUELESS Woke Kchunts,Imagination and Pretend are free,so you can "afford" to "contribute". Pardon reality. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
It is VERY "surprising" how the exceptionally WELL founded Insecurities accrue in such accelerated fashion,post Bargain Beer Bender...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Probably more than a touch on edge,that you didn't get to see the unveil on the parcel. Here,allow me to fuel even more Insecurities and grant you a Google Trip. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Might I suggest more punctuation and Emoji's,to further illuminate the magnitude of your Raging Estrogen Torrents. Pardon wares that exist,while you gals laude your cravings. Hint.
Simply embrace your Incredible Fhuqking STUPIDITY and rock it,if only for oblivious humor...you "lucky" kchunt. Ooooooopsie!!! Too late. Hint. Congratulations?!?
You CLUELESS Fhuqktards are a hoot! Do not "forget",your "special" "contour specific" barrel break-in Delusion(s). Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Bless your heart for trying though.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!................
DUMBall,
You haven't the "means","abilities" or "comprehension" to connect a dot...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Pardon Reality and wares that exist. Hint.
Re-pardon Reality and wares that exist. Hint.
No wonder you MUST "live" vicariously,you Magnificently STUPID Fhuqk. Hint.
Bless your heart for trying though.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!................
Crying Karen,
How many times have you thought about me today and what's it like to always be on the outside licking windows and DESPERATELY trying to get a glimpse inside...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Them exceedingly WELL found Insecurities are certainly amassing and you nearly turned a lick. Almost. Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even you can "afford" to "contribute". At least you get to read my EVERY word and gawk EVERY Splendid Pixel,as you Dream aloud. Hint.
Bacon throat!!! I love you're drawn to me, like a moth to a flame. Its refreshing even a washed up couch lizard such as yourself can drive over a bridge in Alaska a snap a pic of fish!!! Haha
How's the "pards" hunts doin??? hang some pics, please!! 😂😂
Your inability to use your own words or punctuation,are indeed funnier than fhuqk,but there is/was no reason for you to keep reiterating numbers stump you too,as my Post on this Thread broke trail for your's if only as per always...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
I rather enjoy your fear of heights too and your rapidly accelerating list of very WELL founded Insecurities,is EPIC in it's grandeur. Allow me to fuel 'em even more,with some of today's Mail. Hint.
Too bad cameras are WAY too expensive for you. Hint.
Ummmmm, bacon throat!!! "playing second fiddle", " sitting on the outside looking in", and all your whining, bitching and moaning, yet you're the one posting pics of "parts" kills in this thread... Are you OK? Do you realize the shiit you're posting and have posted the last couple days???😂😂😂
Hola you washed up couch lizard!!! I can feels your arteries slamming shut from clear down here!!! Haha
Pardon the poignant profundity of my influence,controlling your every woken moment and most certainly in your DREAMS...you "lucky" kchunt. Pun(s) be intended. Hint. Congratulations?!?
If only in fairness,your most recent infatuation and I have Shot,Killed and Fished more than a smidge together. Said rifle/bullet combo having long been melded and in more blueprints than you could fathom. I am VERY "surprised" them constants,fuel your AMAZINGLY long list of very WELL founded Insecurities,in such a manner. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Now if only to fuel them more. Pardon wares that exist,while you "get" to "contribute",because you can "afford" Imagination and Pretend,solely because it's free. Hint.
Bacon throat!!! Swipe some more pics!! Its gotta be a tad disturbing, what your "life" has turned into... The sun is settin, your fresh outta family, and "parts", though I'm sure co workers feel sorry for ya, as they get to "do", all the while you suckass and live vicariously, while drooling over their exploits. Poor poor little Larry. But hey, its the www so lie away hog neck!!! Haha 😂😂😂
Your Raging Estrogen Torrent,Bargain Beer Benders and Oxygen Deprivation due your time spent as a Masked Sheep,has nicely inflated your Emotions...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
I rather enjoy your Delusional Dumbfhuqktitude and High Pitched Nasal Whine from the sidelines,as you Re-Hissy a "life" long fit of raging inadequacy and extoll via Vagina Monologue,how very WELL founded your countless Insecurities are. The fear of heights was a bitchin' touch too! Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Seems only "fair" to gease them skids and fuel them Insecurities,so you get to be "part" of something you sooooooooo desperately long for. Hint.
Bless your heart for trying.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!..................
crossword,
What else coulda PaulaBurnedHard "do",other than quantify how VERY fortunate she is that Imagination and Pretend are free,so she too can "afford" to "contribute"...the "lucky" kchunt. Hint.
No need to mock the compilation of her "life" savings. Hint.
Given Paula's "means","abilities" and "comprehension",she simply went all in with what incredibly little she "has" to "work" with...the "lucky" kchunt. Hint.(grin)
Imitation remains THE most Sincere form of Flattery and I rather enjoy controlling every thought,of sooooooo many,as they try to do their BEST. It sure as fhuqk ain't very "fair",but never ain't not HILARIOUS. Hint.
I wonder if they make Crying Karen Melting Snowflake WOKE Bridge Maps?!? Hint.
I'm sure glad us do nothings have someone to look up to. Our pitiful lives we live just got a little brighter. Maybe I can pretend my way into another dandy blacktail this year.
You keep fighting "the good fight" and try to "convince" yourself of the things you most NEED to hear...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so you can "afford" to "contribute". You Woke CLUELESS Kchunts have certainly perfected being a "Victim",ifonly due your "life" of practicing same. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Today's rains,got the lettuce growing. Hint.
Bless your heart for doing your best and Dreaming so vividly.
You keep fighting "the good fight" and try to "convince" yourself of the things you most NEED to hear...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so you can "afford" to "contribute". You Woke CLUELESS Kchunts have certainly perfected being a "Victim",ifonly due your "life" of practicing same. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Today's rains,got the lettuce growing. Hint.
Bless your heart for doing your best and Dreaming so vividly.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!.................
Bacon throat!! Now what were the chances you’d have your ass pinned into a truck cab??? Haha 😂😂
What are the "odds" that you haven't(can't) quit thinking about me and besides being terrorized by heights,you can't drive...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
You be SURE to keep extolling your INCREDIBLY long list of exceptionally WELL founded Insecurities and I'll happily keep fuelin' them for you,as you wax Second Fiddle eloquent,via your Never Ending Vagina Monologue. Undoubtedly,the Great Unknown in the Mail,propels your flight to The Flame. That being said,I'll happily fuel your Insecurities and if only as per always,pardon wares that exist,if only to your well founded chagrin. Google it. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.
Bless your heart,you can nearly punctuate for yourself and pardon my perpetual intrusion,behind your crossed-eyes.
Bacon throat, what were the odds you had to come running right back to this thread first thing? Bout the same as you pile in your truck “ hunting “… cab lizard!! Haha 🤣
Pardon my breaking trail,as you "get" to be Second Fiddle yet again...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Here's to the MAGNIFICENT HILARITY of your Estrogen Fueled Delusional Dumbfhuqktitude and AMAZINGLY long list of exceedingly WELL founded Insecurities. Speaking of which,how is Little Wuhan doing? "Congratulations" on your conversion to Muslim. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Oooopsie! 'Merica! Hint.
You be SURE to keep extolling them Insecurities,in your Soothing High Pitched Nasal Whine and I'll be sure to keep fueling same. Speaking of which. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Bacon throat, love how you follow me around, wishing you had what I have. Little wuhan is actually not chink, guess you could call him “ lil Pedro “ . One thing is, he sure don’t have a adult sized forehead at age 3, but I do did the drool coming from its mouth!! 😂😂
Look at the bright side, maybe lil Kim will tell the shovel head who his daddy is, only after extensive dna tests!! Haha 😂
Pay attention to the “ pics of it didn’t happen thread hog neck!! 😎😘
Are those Muslim Eye Watering Chilli Pepper Emoji's...you "lucky" kchunt? Hint. Congratulations?!?
Perhaps quote the Koran in Spanish,as you extoll your exceptionally WELL founded Insecurities and "embrace" your newfound Faith. Here I'll fuel 'em yet again. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Do you and Little Wuhan have matching turbines for your pin heads,along with masks being in synched patterns...you "lucky" kchunt? Hint. Congratulations?!?
How come Little Wuhan doesn't rate anything good? No WONDER your WELL founded Insecurities,amass sooooo incredibly fast!?! Second Birthday here in 'Merica. Google as you MUST,nod your pin head like you do and then kneel towards Mecca,as forced. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Fortunately for you and Little Wuhan,Imagination and Pretend are free,so you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.
Bacon throat!!! Let me know when little Kim finds the wide spaced eyed, xxxl craniums daddy. Or his he gonna be like cooper? Oh, watch him around his great grandfather, if he ever sees him!! Haha 😂
At least you'll "get" to "explain" to Little Wuhan,how Second Fiddle is "pretty good" and being Muslim is "cool"...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
While kneeling to Mecca,you can thank Allah,in how very REAL Imagination and Pretend are(to you). Then regale Little Wuhan with pics of wares that exist,though oh soooooo many miles away. As a final "move",before Prayer is over,you can elaborate that Imitation is THE most Sincere form of Flattery. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Just a bit different here in 'Merica,as the Winny 63 Second Birthday Present,actually exists. So do the "Chickmunk". When it rains,it pours. Hint.
Bacon throat!!! Please tell lil Kim to start a “ go fund me” account for fuucks sake!! Not even a hienz 57 micklecky deserves to be dressed in pink!! 😂😂
Though it might be telling of some lbgtq+ tendencies in the future?? Haha
Big Stick is living proof that even God can make a mistake once in awhile. He ruined a great prick when he put ears on Big Stick. Hint! Wink! and all that other stupid stuff you add at the end of your comments.....
Ain't it nice to walk into the local store and buy whatcha' want? Hint.
I reckon Today's Mail was rather kind too. Hint.
What were the "odds" that you CLUELESS Whining Kchunts are glued to my EVERY word and Splendid Pixel,as you pontificate your exceptionally WELL founded Insecurities and Melt in Woke Unison? Hint.
Ain't it VERY fortunate for you,that Imagination and Pretend are free,so even you can "afford" to "contribute"...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
You'll simply haveta' pardon wares that exist,as you get your Google on. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Ain't it nice to walk into the local store and buy whatcha' want? Hint.
I reckon Today's Mail was rather kind too. Hint.
What were the "odds" that you CLUELESS Whining Kchunts are glued to my EVERY word and Splendid Pixel,as you pontificate your exceptionally WELL founded Insecurities and Melt in Woke Unison? Hint.
Bless your hearts for trying.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!..................
Bacon neck!!! It sure is!!! Haha
You sure speak of “ well founded insecurities “ ,you insecure?? 😂😂
Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so you can "afford" to "contribute"...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Ain't it a hoot,that besides being a CLUELESS Fhuqk,you just also "happen" to be a Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit to boot? Pardon reality,as you dabble your perpetual Dumbfhuqktitude. Hint.
I realize a GOOD day for you,is one in which you don't schit your pants. Hopefully wares that exist,won't embarrass you yet again. Hint.
Bless your heart for Lying,Crying,Whining and Trying.
Mmmmmmmmm...'26?!? never heard of it. Hint. Laughing!
Got lucky and more Mail showed up,if only to fuel the Insecurities of Melting Snowflakes. I'll start carving it open,here in a bit. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
All of my 22PPC AFI's and 243PPC AFI's,whether Turnbolt or Krunchenticker,dine expressly upon Lever'. Hint...............
I didn't know we had a comedy sub-forum, this is good. My favorite part is the guy who stages all of his crap for pictures accusing other members of pretending.
I rather enjoyed that part too,but to PaulaBurnedHard's credit,she can only "share" what incredibly fhuqking little she "has" to "work" with and do not dismiss her helmet and Handicapped Parking Permit...the "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
With soooooooo many choices of Drooling Dumbfhuqktitude to choose from,my favorite(s),are the Melting Whining Snowflakes who are glued to my EVERY word and Splendid Pixel,but despite their Incredible STUPIDITY know better than to try and say anything about The Rifle,on a Hunting Rifle Board. Puts a "little" perspective on things,you Drooling Fhuqktard. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Allow me to fuel your Insecurities,so you can extoll how very "fortunate" you are,that Imagination and Pretend are free,so even you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.
Big stick Perhaps you can clarify something for me. You are constantly expounding on the severe use you subject your firearms to. Now, going by the posts you make,you have somewhere over 600 rifles. Also, you get 6 months vacation. If you hunt 24 hours a day for those six months, that's 4320 hours. If you divide 4320 hours by 600 rifles, that means each rifle gets an average of 7.2 hours use per year. Now, lets assume that you hunt with a rifle in each hand, that means each rifle gets 14.4 hours use. That's assuming a rifle in each hand, hunting 24 hours a day. As a feeble minded old man, I still use my rifles more than that. If I don't I sell them. There is also the probability that you hunt less than 24 hours a day, and that you don't have a rifle in each hand. So, if there is a mathematical possibility that you can subject all your rifles and scopes to many days of hard each year, I'd like you to point it out to me.
Nothing changes,in that EVERYTHING changes. Hint.(grin)
Lemme set the stage,from years ago. Hint.
Now to Start At The Fhuqking Start. The 7.62x39 from circa '44,was/is the parent of more than a few chamberings. I reckon the 220 Russian was likely the first mainstay,followed by the 5.45x39. The 'Russian was shaken and stirred,which led to the 22/6PPC and the cup runneth over,with LEGENDS born. Bill Alexander essentially took the premise,Improved same and coughed up the 6.5 Grendel. Just as with any other Parent case,there were a myriad of deviations,some of which gained traction. Soooooooo...the 224 Grendel/LBC/AR/Predator/PPC Improved/ARC are all subtle diviations(at MOST),of the Theme. Same goes the .243" bore size variants. There are renditions of less traction,which took Improvement further,if one is so inclined. I am not. Hint.
I personally have only shot/got the 224LBC,224 Predator and 22PPC AFI,who's O/F cases largely interchange(modest headspace deviations,being a given). Same goes the 243 versions of same. That being said,I can only reflect upon my (10) rifles so chambered(between Turnbolts and Krunchentickers) and what's gotta be a like number of pard's platforms. In .224" I have 6.5,7 and 8" RPMS. In .243" only 7 and 8". BHW,X-Caliber and Harrison as OEM goes,the balance Custom on Bartlein(mainly) and Krieger blanks. Hint.
For even more perspective,here's a Hornady 6.5 Grendel Virgin F/L sized to 6 ARC on far left. F/L sized Hornady 6.5 Grendel sized to positive headspace a false shoulder in my 243 LBC Krunchentickers,to the far right. Lapooey O/F 243 LBC betwixt same. Hint.
As Krunchentickers go,I'm happy(very) with Rifle Gas,but have some +2". As does go,there are numerous ways to get there,but I've both 224 Predator and 243 Predator dies sourced from harrison,that will feed the herd. though I of course have Grendel bushing dies,PPC Seaters and a buncha' other stuff,obviously including F/L 6 ARC. Hint.
In a nutshell,Lapooey is KING. Starline ain't horrid. Norma is Fhuqking Dog Schit and Hornady right there with it,as 6.5 Grendel parent Virgins go. In my .224" PPC Improved Krunchentickers,it's a breeze to Smooch 75'Max,ELD's and 88 ELD's. Same goes .243" Hornie 105 BTHP's,'Max and 108 ELD's,in the above cited ASC mags. Hint.
As you more than hint at and as I've oft lamented,the 22 ARC/LBC/Predator/Grendel/PPC AFI is a GLARING void and 7" RPM a given. The 6 ARC is a Good Bitch,but a .224" 88 ELD has a better BC(.545) than a .243" 108 ELD .536 BC and the reduction in mass,equates to a velocity increase in .224",which further frosts the cake. Hint.
Sorry for repeatedly talking Rifles,on a Thread in which The Do Nothing gang was practicing their Imagination and Pretend,while hoping to perfect their GoogleFu...the "lucky" kchunts.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!....................
Joyce,
Weren't my intent to hurt your VERY Tender Feelers,nor to grant you a Delusion that you "could too"...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Here's to how VERY well founded your countless Insecurities are and how "fortunate" you are,that Imagination and Pretend are free,so even you can "afford" to "contrinute" too. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Looking forward to your next Whine,you Magnificently CLUELESS Stupid Fhuqk. Hint.
Bless your heart.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!....................
'retzs,
The VagDry is a Stinking Pile Of Fhuqking Schit for certain,as is the 22 Nuzzler. Hint.
Big Stick Your childish answer doesn’t address any of the questions I brought up. I would think that anyone that claims the mental superiority that you do could formulate something other than an answer at the level of a not too bright twelve year old. There was nothing in my post to indicate that my feelings were hurt, or that I had any insecurities. That would be obvious to anyone with the most basic reading ability. But, perhaps you read posts at the same level that you post, about the low grade twelve year old level. Want to try again?
Royce, first things first, bacon throat is a “tweener “ I guess you could say. Not a hunter, not a competitive/benchrest/prc shooter, but rather a lazy cab lizard that kills bucks outta his front seat, and slicks bears off the beach. Liar Larry aledgedly makes “dr $$$”, lives in a run down shiithole on a Indian rez in “paradise”, surely he could pursue sheep, bou, moose, goat, musk ox, grizz etc?? I mean he has “pards” begging him to take him out in their super Cubs!!! Haha
But here we are, Ol hog neck spends countless hours talking shiit, bitching and moaning about other folks and their wares. I know I know, countless insecurities, imagination and pretend blah blah fuucking blah.. 😘😎 some emojis for ya LarryO!! Haha
Big Stick Your childish answer doesn’t address any of the questions I brought up. I would think that anyone that claims the mental superiority that you do could formulate something other than an answer at the level of a not too bright twelve year old. There was nothing in my post to indicate that my feelings were hurt, or that I had any insecurities. That would be obvious to anyone with the most basic reading ability. But, perhaps you read posts at the same level that you post, about the low grade twelve year old level. Want to try again?
I have him blocked. I suggest everyone else do the same. I let him get to me so much that I called him out, wanted to give him a chance to talk to me like that in person on one of my trips to Elmendorf Air Force Base (Anchorage). Told him I'd meet him wherever he liked. He wouldn't even answer. Then someone PM'd me what may have happened to make him act this way. This pathetic, lonely old man isn't worth the time or effort to kick the crap out of. The best revenge is to let him live a long life thinking about what he did.
The point that I was trying to make is that although Larry spends countless hours boasting about his long hard use of rifles, each one of his rifles gets very little use. Apparently, I made my point, because he didn't respond to my post except for his usual childish name calling. Possibly, there is something to Larry's rant that a person's manliness is tied to how much money they earn. Richard Simmons and Oprah Winfrey both make several magnitudes of the money Larry earns, so that must mean Richard and Oprah are way above Larry on the masculinity chart. I have been reading Larry"s BS for years, and thought it was time someone demonstrated how inflated his BS claims are to his face.
Fhuqk YESSSSSSSSS...and just like that,THE Twatly Trifecta was created...you "lucky" kchunts. Hint. Congratulations?!?
The copious Imagination and Pretend,is only surpassed by The VERY Tender Feelers,Imaginary Pretend Ignore and the INCREDIBLY loooonnnngggggggg list of very WELL founded Insecurities. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
You gals be SURE to combine "forces" and Whine in unison,as you "fight" the GOOD "fight",with Retardation and Estrogen as you extoll your Woketitude on the World. Allow me to fuel them Insecurities. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
I don't get many PM's and gotsta' keep deleting 'em,to make room for more. Hint.
I reckon a goodly portion of your Crying Kchuntitude,is the unfinished business of yesterday's Mail. Weren't my intent to leave you "hard chargers" hanging and I apologize as that was rude. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!!
Bless your Vagina Monologue in 3-Part Harmony,you "rugged" Snowflakes.
Larry I'll post my question again to see if you've conjured up a grown up answer to it.
Big stick Perhaps you can clarify something for me. You are constantly expounding on the severe use you subject your firearms to. Now, going by the posts you make,you have somewhere over 600 rifles. Also, you get 6 months vacation. If you hunt 24 hours a day for those six months, that's 4320 hours. If you divide 4320 hours by 600 rifles, that means each rifle gets an average of 7.2 hours use per year. Now, lets assume that you hunt with a rifle in each hand, that means each rifle gets 14.4 hours use. That's assuming a rifle in each hand, hunting 24 hours a day. As a feeble minded old man, I still use my rifles more than that. If I don't I sell them. There is also the probability that you hunt less than 24 hours a day, and that you don't have a rifle in each hand. So, if there is a mathematical possibility that you can subject all your rifles and scopes to many days of hard each year, I'd like you to point it out to me.
The '250 is a GREAT chambering,as a Donor. Hint.(grin)
Lapooey did some REAL favors,in making rather good 22-250 Donor Brass. It paved the way to more than a few 22-250 AI's,224 Speedmires,6 Internationals,6XC's, Seex Kreedmires and the ilk. Hint.
The trouble with the .257" version is timeless...and that's simply bullets. NONE are worth a fhuqk. As Rifles go,that's not a "good" thing. Hint. Laughing!
Don't be too hard on THE Twatly Trifecta,they are simply at the mercy of their "means","abilities" and "comprehension",so "default" to Imagination and Pretend,despite it being their only "move". Hint.
Might I suggest,that your WELL founded Insecurities,aren't "shared" by everyone...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Just do ALL that you "can" and set on the sidelines,rattling Pom-Pom's,while counting PM's and "convincing" yourself that you "could too". Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
During the meanwhile,simply "explain" how many times a day you think about me. Perhaps use an Emoji?!? Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
I'll simply fuel your copious Insecurities,so you can use your Imagination and Pretend even more. Hint.
I’ve done alotta gods work with a 250, like gw says, mild mannered, good killin rifle.. test media has only been several bucks, bulls and a couple bear. I’m sure bacon throat has much more experience than I with the chambering… haha
Might I suggest,that your WELL founded Insecurities,aren't "shared" by everyone...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Just do ALL that you "can" and set on the sidelines,rattling Pom-Pom's,while counting PM's and "convincing" yourself that you "could too". Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
During the meanwhile,simply "explain" how many times a day you think about me. Perhaps use an Emoji?!? Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
I'll simply fuel your copious Insecurities,so you can use your Imagination and Pretend even more. Hint.
Bless your heart for trying.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!....................
Haha look at the bright side bacon throat, you get to kill a few bucks this year….. and that’s it!! Your doin so great, and I’m feeling insecure… least you get to live vicariously and cruise through the “pics of it didn’t happen” thread, stomp your feet and make excuses!! 😘😎
Nice rifle geedubya, looking forward to shooting a buck with this Ruger 250 Sav. I recently picked up. Have only shot somerwhere around 10-12 deer with my 250's, all Savage levers. Never had any complaints.
Nice rifle geedubya, looking forward to shooting a buck with this Ruger 250 Sav. I recently picked up. Have only shot somerwhere around 10-12 deer with my 250's, all Savage levers. Never had any complaints.
Oh ya, mine was a 77 bicentennial, used to run 100 grain core locks in it, great little rifle. Got grandmas Ol 99 in the back of the safe, need to dust er off
I haven't checked back in awhile. Are the animals I killed with a 250 Savage dead or not? Can I still expect to kill animals with a 250 Savage? Are animals shot with a higher BC bullet more or less dead? Can I only shoot animals a 1000 yards away? Is it wrong to kill animals 46 yards away? Does shooting animals close make me less of hunter?
Nice rifle geedubya, looking forward to shooting a buck with this Ruger 250 Sav. I recently picked up. Have only shot somerwhere around 10-12 deer with my 250's, all Savage levers. Never had any complaints.
Oh ya, mine was a 77 bicentennial, used to run 100 grain core locks in it, great little rifle. Got grandmas Ol 99 in the back of the safe, need to dust er off
I haven't checked back in awhile. Are the animals I killed with a 250 Savage dead or not? Can I still expect to kill animals with a 250 Savage? Are animals shot with a higher BC bullet more or less dead? Can I only shoot animals a 1000 yards away? Is it wrong to kill animals 46 yards away? Does shooting animals close make me less of hunter?
Thanks
46 yards?? I can't even see 46 yards around here.
I really like to hang in the thick stuff where the big boys hide.
There is a buck in that pic. If I had it on my laptop I could probably find him.
Nice rifle geedubya, looking forward to shooting a buck with this Ruger 250 Sav. I recently picked up. Have only shot somerwhere around 10-12 deer with my 250's, all Savage levers. Never had any complaints.
Oh ya, mine was a 77 bicentennial, used to run 100 grain core locks in it, great little rifle. Got grandmas Ol 99 in the back of the safe, need to dust er off
That 99 should get on some meat.
Hell ya Scotty. Dunno what model it is, got the gold shell counter, schnabel forend, 24” snout. Had it drilled and tapped and mounted a old school Swarovski on it
My favorite factory built rifles in 250-3000 are, listed alphabetically, the Ruger 77 RSI, Savage 1920, Savage 99F, Savage 99G, and 1986 Winchester/USRA 70 Lightweight Carbine. I got my first 250-3000, a Savage 99G in 1968, and my most recent in 2005, a Winchester/USRA 70 Lightweight Carbine with open sights that Mule Deer decided was surplus to his needs.
Despite the drought of 0.257" VLD bullets I have managed to kill a lot of varmints and more than a few whitetails with bullets in the 75 to 120 grain range. The biggest whitetail that I've ever shot, estimated over 300 lbs. live weight, died via 110 grain AB fired from a 25 WSSM.
It seems to me that most bullets and cartridges work as intended if they are used within their design parameters. The fact that Kevin Petrzilka took a 203 4/8 B&C whitetail with a Remington 788 in 22-250 using a common 55 grain bullet seems to prove that cutting edge gear isn't necessary for success.
Too fhuqking funny! I'm fairly certain,that it were plainly cited,that upon a like case the .224" do a better job. It's #5 from the right,so at least you can say you've "seen" one. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
If only to fuel them Insecurities,so you Woke Snowflakes can have some reality to talk about. Hint.
Insanity of spending thousands of dollars a month on an endless iteration of rifles that get used less that seven hours a year? To shoot rocks? Humongous.
Many yrs ago I had a 250 savage built on a Mexican Mauser friend had to make a bolt for it, screwed on a 22inch Pac-nor barrel my middle step son. He used couple times ended up getting himself a course deer with it. This was long before high b.c bullet craze. He shot 90gr Sierra hpbt out of it. I know by today’s standards that bullet only good out to 75yds. Anyhow back in 2012 time frame my friend daughter drew a caribou permit and he was trying to get her to shoot his 30-06 the recoil was bad and she was not having fun according to him every time she pulled the trigger she would flinch and was losing interest real quick. I told him I had a rifle he could use and I took that 250 savage to him, by this time I found another load using 100 grain Sierra pro hunter (I know another Inferior bullet) loaded with H4895z I dropped that rifle and 50 rounds of ammo told them shoot it all up. His daughter shot that rifle and she loved shooting it no recoil. Long story short they took it caribou hunting and she shot het caribou with it. My bud asked me if I sell it to him. I said nope, he still asks about that little rifle all these yrs later.
I musta' missed it,when folks "accused" you of new wares...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Here's to how VERY well founded your countless Insecurities are. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Bless your heart for Crying.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!....................
79,
I've only got (1) rifle that started as a 250 Salvage. It went from there(as I bought it chambered in a custom 700) to 250AI. Barrel shank was shortened to go 257 Bob,then Bob Improved. Lastly,It was chambered 25-284 where it remains(I have 3 of 'em). Hint.
The .257" 90gr Sugar is in fact a whopping piece of schit. Though I bought 3000+ of 'em on a Potterfield SALE for case forming. For hilarity,here it is next to a .224" 90gr Hornie Beer Can. Hint.
I musta' missed it,when folks "accused" you of new wares...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Here's to how VERY well founded your countless Insecurities are. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Bless your heart for Crying.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!....................
79,
I've only got (1) rifle that started as a 250 Salvage. It went from there(as I bought it chambered in a custom 700) to 250AI. Barrel shank was shortened to go 257 Bob,then Bob Improved. Lastly,It was chambered 25-284 where it remains(I have 3 of 'em). Hint.
The .257" 90gr Sugar is in fact a whopping piece of schit. Though I bought 3000+ of 'em on a Potterfield SALE for case forming. For hilarity,here it is next to a .224" 90gr Hornie Beer Can. Hint.
Just sayin'.
Hint.
Laughing!...............
I’m bouncing around the idea building my daughter f class rifle and make a fast twist 22-250 to shoot them 88gr eld-m and 90 gr a-tips. 21 yrs ago the 250 savage seemed like a great idea lol.
I never have liked the 22-250 SALAMI,but of course have more than a "few". 88's and 90's do very nice things there. 7" RPM Mike Rock,bottomest far left. Hint.
That being said and that rifle amongst a herd of others,will slap the 1000yd line silly,but I'd not go there for same. For me,that's 6BR Country,though the 22-250 will fling a higher BC faster. The BR's penchant is unreal ES/SD's,copious barrel life and mild manners across the board. I'd happily take the performance hit,to field same. Buck Remover above,is of course a 6BR. Rock Fodder and BR here,if only to give the Karens something to cry about,but at least they can now say they've "seen" 'em. .224" Beer Can,.257" 90gr Sugar and .243" 110 Beer Can. Hint. Laughing!
6BR and 264 PPC AFI here. Hint.
I of course shoot a High Zoot 22BR too,but Greg didn't have anything faster than 8" on the shelf at the time and in a Krieger of all fhuqking things(I've zero love),but it shoots. While I typically VERY much prefer the .224" bore size,when extrapolated to a .243" on the same case,I cain't do that to the 6BR. The 6BR is simply a magnificent chambering. I'm no-turn on ALL of it. Hint.(grin)
Food for thunking.
Oooooooopsie! Nearly forgot about the Mail. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Too bad you ain't closer,she could bang away with more than a few chamberings,in more than a few blueprints and cut to the chase. Hint......................
I've never had any trouble killing WT deer with 25cal. bullets. Even the supposed lowly 100gr Horandy SPs worked well.
I have a Ruger UL 257 Roberts. I have had other 257 Roberts rifles. When I was stationed on Kodiak, I had a 257 Roberts. I have no trouble finding Sitka deer and killing them with it. That with non +P loads. I had a plain jane Weaver scope on it. Apparently some people need turrets, .723 G1 BC bullets and modern custom chamberings to do the same thing.
I've never had any trouble killing WT deer with 25cal. bullets. Even the supposed lowly 100gr Horandy SPs worked well.
I have a Ruger UL 257 Roberts. I have had other 257 Roberts rifles. When I was stationed on Kodiak, I had a 257 Roberts. I have no trouble finding Sitka deer and killing them with it. That with non +P loads. I had a plain jane Weaver scope on it. Apparently some people need turrets, .723 G1 BC bullets and modern custom chamberings to do the same thing.
The 100 grain Sierra flat base works pretty well also from a .257 Roberts.
If you folks on the east coast that extoll the virtues of the 25 caliber rifles on deer were to move west and hunt mule deer, antelope, black bear and elk, you’d probably come to the harsh realization that the 25 calibers work pretty darn well on all those critters as well, and you had little excuse for buying another rifle. Larry, aka, Big Stick, buys guns for one purpose, and one purpose only: to come in here and brag and bully. As I pointed out on an earlier post, if you divide Larry’s time off hours by the number of rifles he claims to own, each rifle gets used less, much less than 7 hours a year on average. By the same token, if you take the number of bullets he brags on, the fact that he mostly hunts just deer and probably only can shoot a dozen deer a year, it would take many years to definitively analyze the effectiveness of even a few bullets on deer. Larry’s claim to be a hard charging user of rifles and scopes falls on it’s face when you do the simple math. Larry is an expert at buying an endless number of rifles, shooting rocks, and typing gibberish, posting the same childish gibberish over and over, but when challenged on his blather, he shrinks away. For twenty or so years, I have watched him chortle with delight as he barges into threads, calls everybody gay, stupid and poverty stricken. He tries so hard to be the big he man, but ignores the fact that to be a man, first one has to be an adult. He operates way below the adult level.
Wow! Alaska?!? I can only read about it and to think you've actually been there...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Here's to how very WELL founded your countless Insecurities are,you Magnificently STUPID Fhuqk! I have heard of a Weaver scope,but have never seen one. I saw a guy on TV with a turret,once. Isn't the 257 Roberts like a Super Hot Rod chambering?!? You lost me with "BC". Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
21" 243 Kreedmire here,with a 110 Sugar at 3025fps and a Smooch. It seems to me,that by just looking through the scope,that 1250yds is a breeze?!? How come the case is sooooooo much smaller than a 257 Roberts? How come that despite being quieter,burning less powder,weighing less,havig a shorter barrel and recoiling less,it simply stomps THE fhuqk out of a 257 Roberts? Is it because you've been to Alaska? Is it because they sell 243 Kreedmire ammo in stores? Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
How come a 21" 7-08 will shoot a .796 BC at 2600fps and a 257 Roberts is much bigger? I like your helmet. Hint.
Bless your poor poor(literally) heart.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!......................
elkchunt,
I like your lies...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
I tossed you a boat tail,because you CLUELESS Droolers need ALL the help you can get. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
BARELY supersonic to the 900yd line. Hint. LAUGHING!
How come that VERY big Roberts case,starts out 175fps faster,but at 100yds it is only 52fps faster? How come at 150yds,it's going slower than that itty-bitty 243 Kreedmire. That is weird. how come that bigger/heavier bullet going faster,drifts more in the wind at the 50yd line? That's really weird. How come you can only afford one scope cap? How come the 243 Kreedmire is going faster at 1500yds,than your great big Roberts is at 900yds? Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Bless your heart,you CLUELESS Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit.
Hint.
Fhuqking Laughing!....................
Joyce,
Here's to the HILARITY,of how just very WELL founded your countless Insecurities are...you 'lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Might I suggest (3) Midol and 1000cc's of Vagisil in your usual location(s). Hint. Fhuqking laughing!
As an aside,I "only" get 7-1/2 months of vacation a year. Perhaps try a paragraph? You are doing "GREAT!" though. Hint.
Since I follow the Hunting Rifles forum, this thread has been constantly at the top of my Followed List page for days. I didn't think the 250 Savage was that popular.
When I finally clicked on it and saw the number of pages, my first thought was - Crap, Big Stump is on here running his corksucker. Sure enough, scrolling down through the pages over half the replies are "You are ignoring this user".
Sorry, I've never owned, shot, or even handled a 250 Savage, so I don't have anything to add to the discussion.
Since I follow the Hunting Rifles forum, this thread has been constantly at the top of my Followed List page for days. I didn't think the 250 Savage was that popular.
When I finally clicked on it and saw the number of pages, my first thought was - Crap, Big Stump is on here running his corksucker. Sure enough, scrolling down through the pages over half the replies are "You are ignoring this user".
Sorry, I've never owned, shot, or even handled a 250 Savage, so I don't have anything to add to the discussion.
I think that the 250-3000 falls into the same performance neighborhood as the 243, 6MM REM, and 257 Roberts. They all will do what they were designed to do pretty well if you use them within their performance envelope. Case capacities run from approximately 46 to 56 grains of H2O filled to the top of the neck. !0 grains of case capacity equates to about a 2.5% potential velocity difference according to Mule Deer's ROT. My long experience with the 250-3000 and 257 Roberts bears this out, with the Roberts being just a little faster than the Newton designed cartridge when all the other variables are the same.
I would agree that bullets are more important that case head stamps, but there are plenty of 0.243" and 0.257" hunting bullets that are capable of shooting MOA or better and medium game hunting just doesn't require that degree of precision in the great majority of cases. I've never had a bullet failure or lost a head of game when I was using Nosler Partitions and while the Partition is far from being a match grade bullet design, it is a fine hunting bullet that combines excellent penetration with adequate accuracy potential.
Since I follow the Hunting Rifles forum, this thread has been constantly at the top of my Followed List page for days. I didn't think the 250 Savage was that popular.
When I finally clicked on it and saw the number of pages, my first thought was - Crap, Big Stump is on here running his corksucker. Sure enough, scrolling down through the pages over half the replies are "You are ignoring this user".
Sorry, I've never owned, shot, or even handled a 250 Savage, so I don't have anything to add to the discussion.
Same,
got here late.
And since the thread has already been stepped on and the OP got his point across by the middle of page 3 IIRC, I figure you guys don't get to have all the fun.
A bit of history.
I came to 24 hour Campfire in 2008, shortly after Larry/Bushler/Big Stick came over to AccurateReloading, blew up the forum by posting over 700 times in a 36 hour period after which time he was permanently banned. I enjoy taking photos and can do a reasonable job at posting. At that time, being a Texas boy, for me, the nature and quality of his pix were Intriguing. Somehow I heard that he posted on 24hour. I came to check out his pix. Evidently he had been recently been banned here but was posting at the site, ARAIG. So I decided to check that out. BOY HOWDY!
Anywho, back around 2009, being a Pig Perforator form Texas, was kinda like being a leper, especially if you hunted over bait/feeders. So I needed some credentials.
Darrick Carraway was kind enough to help.
He sold me this "Western Hunter Starter Pack"
A McSwirley crayon for painting a stock, a Hornady 6mm, 87 Gr. Bullet, some blue tape for the muzzle of my barrel, and a gen-u-ine Gene Ingram knife.
What made it even better was that it was a pre-enjoyed 2013 ARAIG Group buy knife.
If you've paid any attention to B's posts, you know in what regard he holds Texicans. Especially those that hunt out of Golf Carts, behind Gates at "The Petting Zoo" and Remember the Alamo by drinking Alamo Beer.( See Haybale and Crockett Chronicles)
Years later I smile at the fact that I am still holding that knife "hostage" here in Texas.
So although B don't seem to play well with others. I do enjoy the show!
Hell...I remember when folks here,actually shot. Now it's a cavalcade of Crying Karens,bemoaning their VERY Tender Feelers and perfecting their "Victim" Routines(which is assuredly NO fhuqking "Act"). Hint.
In fairness,I've never heard of said Bladesmith. Hint.
I'm rather at ease in handing out slack on the rope,but it just never seems to go the way Melting Snowflakes hope. Hint.
Bless their hearts....................
'1,
I always was gonna dabble in Photography,but never got around to it. Perhaps,some day?!? Hint...................(grin)
If you folks on the east coast that extoll the virtues of the 25 caliber rifles on deer were to move west and hunt mule deer, antelope, black bear and elk, you’d probably come to the harsh realization that the 25 calibers work pretty darn well on all those critters as well, and you had little excuse for buying another rifle. Larry, aka, Big Stick, buys guns for one purpose, and one purpose only: to come in here and brag and bully. As I pointed out on an earlier post, if you divide Larry’s time off hours by the number of rifles he claims to own, each rifle gets used less, much less than 7 hours a year on average. By the same token, if you take the number of bullets he brags on, the fact that he mostly hunts just deer and probably only can shoot a dozen deer a year, it would take many years to definitively analyze the effectiveness of even a few bullets on deer. Larry’s claim to be a hard charging user of rifles and scopes falls on it’s face when you do the simple math. Larry is an expert at buying an endless number of rifles, shooting rocks, and typing gibberish, posting the same childish gibberish over and over, but when challenged on his blather, he shrinks away. For twenty or so years, I have watched him chortle with delight as he barges into threads, calls everybody gay, stupid and poverty stricken. He tries so hard to be the big he man, but ignores the fact that to be a man, first one has to be an adult. He operates way below the adult level.
Agreed, but I note Stick and I have a similarity in that we have both been banned from Accurate Reloading forums. Though Stick badly needs a shrink I don't share that particular similarity.
There is NO need for you to perpetually quantify,that the Texas Version of EVERYTHING,is simply fhuqking HILARIOUS...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
The Imagination,Pretend and Insecurities are simply BIGGEST in Texas. "Luckily",you can concoct a Delusion in which you somehow "get" to attach yourself to me,because it is painfully fhuqking OBVIOUS,that you simply can not begin to "do" for yourself. Read that again. Now one more time. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
If only for perspective,how many times a day do you think about me? HINT.
Bless your heart.
P.S. and by the way,grab some slack on the rope and "tell" me "more". DARE ya'.
There is NO need for you to perpetually quantify,that the Texas Version of EVERYTHING,is simply fhuqking HILARIOUS...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
The Imagination,Pretend and Insecurities are simply BIGGEST in Texas. "Luckily",you can concoct a Delusion in which you somehow "get" to attach yourself to me,because it is painfully fhuqking OBVIOUS,that you simply can not begin to "do" for yourself. Read that again. Now one more time. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
If only for perspective,how many times a day do you think about me? HINT.
Bless your heart.
P.S. and by the way,grab some slack on the rope and "tell" me "more". DARE ya'.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!..................
Well when I see you go into your blowhard routine I am guilty of thinking it is funny in a way. You might have back in the 70's made a good standup comedian but in reality your true calling snorting sawdust works too.
There is NO need for you to perpetually quantify,that the Texas Version of EVERYTHING,is simply fhuqking HILARIOUS...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
The Imagination,Pretend and Insecurities are simply BIGGEST in Texas. "Luckily",you can concoct a Delusion in which you somehow "get" to attach yourself to me,because it is painfully fhuqking OBVIOUS,that you simply can not begin to "do" for yourself. Read that again. Now one more time. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
If only for perspective,how many times a day do you think about me? HINT.
Bless your heart.
P.S. and by the way,grab some slack on the rope and "tell" me "more". DARE ya'.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!..................
Well when I see you go into your blowhard routine I am guilty of thinking it is funny in a way. You might have back in the 70's made a good standup comedian but in reality your true calling snorting sawdust works too.
Pardon facts upsetting you so and I'm rather at ease in the comfort of same,as you gals concoct Delusions predicated upon your Imagination and Pretend,then frost same copiously with Estrogen...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
You be SURE to "activate" your GoogleFu,should you "think" I am "mistaken". Mainly because,schit do NOT get fhuqking funnier than that! Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
My "trouble" is,I make a LOT of things look "easy",if only because they are for me and wellllllll beyond your "means","abilities" or "comprehension". HILARIOUSLY,you Drooling Fhuqktards can't connect a single fhuqking dot by yourselves and that schit never ain't not fhuqking FUNNY! Hint.
Again. Just how many times a day do you think about me? Further,why do you Pretend aloud,to feebly concoct a "connection" to me. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Bless your heart for trying.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!...............
Boob,
What would you "do",less your Imagination and all of it's Pretend...you "lucky" kchunt? Hint. Congratulations?!?
At least you "get" to suck ass,dumpster dive scraps and plagiarize. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Pardon facts upsetting you so and I'm rather at ease in the comfort of same,as you gals concoct Delusions predicated upon your Imagination and Pretend,then frost same copiously with Estrogen...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
You be SURE to "activate" your GoogleFu,should you "think" I am "mistaken". Mainly because,schit do NOT get fhuqking funnier than that! Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
My "trouble" is,I make a LOT of things look "easy",if only because they are for me and wellllllll beyond your "means","abilities" or "comprehension". HILARIOUSLY,you Drooling Fhuqktards can't connect a single fhuqking dot by yourselves and that schit never ain't not fhuqking FUNNY! Hint.
Again. Just how many times a day do you think about me? Further,why do you Pretend aloud,to feebly concoct a "connection" to me. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Bless your heart for trying.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!...............
So your trying to say that Sitka Spruce provides the best sawdust high?
As I pointed out on an earlier post, if you divide Larry’s time off hours by the number of rifles he claims to own, each rifle gets used less, much less than 7 hours a year on average. By the same token, if you take the number of bullets he brags on, the fact that he mostly hunts just deer and probably only can shoot a dozen deer a year, it would take many years to definitively analyze the effectiveness of even a few bullets on deer. Larry’s claim to be a hard charging user of rifles and scopes falls on it’s face when you do the simple math.
Being a bit of a numbers guy, now I’m curious… Care to show your math?
Kodiak The math goes something like this. Larry has stated before on here that he gets six months of vacation. (He has now amended that to 71/2 months) But at 6 months vacation, and if he has 600 guns (going from his posts, with several rifles in each chambering in many calibers, he must have over a 1000 guns), he has 180 days x 12 hours a day, or 2160 hours. Dividing 2160 hours by 600 guns gives an average of 3.6 hours per gun. I rounded up to seven hours per gun, in case he hunts 24 hours a day each day he has off. If he were to have 12 months a year off, and hunted 24 hours a day, that would give him a total of 8760 hours or an average of 14.6 hours per year, per gun.
If my math is off, I would hope someone would correct me. Larry has had ample opportunity to correct me, but chose to confirm my other accusations by making a couple of incredibly childish posts that completely ignored the issues I brought up.
Ask yourself when his last cogent and useful post was, probably sometime prior to August 10, 2010.
Losing a child has got to weigh heavily on a person,. the crushing guilt of continually asking yourself what you could have done differently.
OTOH, if you're a nacissist, you tell yourself that nothing you did contributed to the actual outcome.
RIP KEB
#SOCIOPATH
Do you feel better by saying that on the internet? Be a big boy and make fun of him however you wish but leave family problems out of it. It’s pretty sick what some of you say just trying to argue. If you don’t like what he says who cares call him a chit head and carry on. Bringing up things like that is mental. I can’t imagine stooping that low just to argue with someone on the internet.
Ask yourself when his last cogent and useful post was, probably sometime prior to August 10, 2010.
Losing a child has got to weigh heavily on a person,. the crushing guilt of continually asking yourself what you could have done differently.
OTOH, if you're a nacissist, you tell yourself that nothing you did contributed to the actual outcome.
RIP KEB
#SOCIOPATH
Do you feel better by saying that on the internet? Be a big boy and make fun of him however you wish but leave family problems out of it. It’s pretty sick what some of you say just trying to argue. If you don’t like what he says who cares call him a chit head and carry on. Bringing up things like that is mental. I can’t imagine stooping that low just to argue with someone on the internet.
Ask yourself when his last cogent and useful post was, probably sometime prior to August 10, 2010.
Losing a child has got to weigh heavily on a person,. the crushing guilt of continually asking yourself what you could have done differently.
OTOH, if you're a nacissist, you tell yourself that nothing you did contributed to the actual outcome.
RIP KEB
#SOCIOPATH
Do you feel better by saying that on the internet? Be a big boy and make fun of him however you wish but leave family problems out of it. It’s pretty sick what some of you say just trying to argue. If you don’t like what he says who cares call him a chit head and carry on. Bringing up things like that is mental. I can’t imagine stooping that low just to argue with someone on the internet.
Ask yourself when his last cogent and useful post was, probably sometime prior to August 10, 2010.
Losing a child has got to weigh heavily on a person,. the crushing guilt of continually asking yourself what you could have done differently.
OTOH, if you're a nacissist, you tell yourself that nothing you did contributed to the actual outcome.
RIP KEB
#SOCIOPATH
Do you feel better by saying that on the internet? Be a big boy and make fun of him however you wish but leave family problems out of it. It’s pretty sick what some of you say just trying to argue. If you don’t like what he says who cares call him a chit head and carry on. Bringing up things like that is mental. I can’t imagine stooping that low just to argue with someone on the internet.
So... you don't believe he is a sociopath? Have you ever been the victim of a sociopath?
In the past you called me out for calling him a schithead....
Also him being a sociopath means his family are victiims....
Ask yourself when his last cogent and useful post was, probably sometime prior to August 10, 2010.
Losing a child has got to weigh heavily on a person,. the crushing guilt of continually asking yourself what you could have done differently.
OTOH, if you're a nacissist, you tell yourself that nothing you did contributed to the actual outcome.
RIP KEB
#SOCIOPATH
Do you feel better by saying that on the internet? Be a big boy and make fun of him however you wish but leave family problems out of it. It’s pretty sick what some of you say just trying to argue. If you don’t like what he says who cares call him a chit head and carry on. Bringing up things like that is mental. I can’t imagine stooping that low just to argue with someone on the internet.
So... you don't believe he is a sociopath? Have you ever been the victim of a sociopath?
In the past you called me out for calling him a schithead....
Also him being a sociopath means his family are victiims....
You aren't to bright are you?
I don't know him at all. I just don't care for rubbing a mans face in the death of his son. I lived in Wyoming in the middle of nowhere for almost 19 years. That will cause some people real problems.
I never have liked the 22-250 SALAMI,but of course have more than a "few". 88's and 90's do very nice things there. 7" RPM Mike Rock,bottomest far left. Hint.
That being said and that rifle amongst a herd of others,will slap the 1000yd line silly,but I'd not go there for same. For me,that's 6BR Country,though the 22-250 will fling a higher BC faster. The BR's penchant is unreal ES/SD's,copious barrel life and mild manners across the board. I'd happily take the performance hit,to field same. Buck Remover above,is of course a 6BR. Rock Fodder and BR here,if only to give the Karens something to cry about,but at least they can now say they've "seen" 'em. .224" Beer Can,.257" 90gr Sugar and .243" 110 Beer Can. Hint. Laughing!
6BR and 264 PPC AFI here. Hint.
I of course shoot a High Zoot 22BR too,but Greg didn't have anything faster than 8" on the shelf at the time and in a Krieger of all fhuqking things(I've zero love),but it shoots. While I typically VERY much prefer the .224" bore size,when extrapolated to a .243" on the same case,I cain't do that to the 6BR. The 6BR is simply a magnificent chambering. I'm no-turn on ALL of it. Hint.(grin)
Food for thunking.
Oooooooopsie! Nearly forgot about the Mail. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Too bad you ain't closer,she could bang away with more than a few chamberings,in more than a few blueprints and cut to the chase. Hint......................
A few days ago I signed up for the 24 Campfire and had to affirm that I would respect the rules and standards of civility for the board. Only to find immediately that there is a member here, Big Stick, who, by several reports of other posters here, has violated those standards repeatedly and for years. Who are the administrators and moderators for the campfire? Why haven’t you enforced these standards with this member who sows such discord and evil upon these pages? Why hasn’t this person been banned long ago?
A few days ago I signed up for the 24 Campfire and had to affirm that I would respect the rules and standards of civility for the board. Only to find immediately that there is a member here, Big Stick, who, by several reports of other posters here, has violated those standards repeatedly and for years. Who are the administrators and moderators for the campfire? Why haven’t you enforced these standards with this member who sows such discord and evil upon these pages? Why hasn’t this person been banned long ago?
Those are good questions that deserve answers, but you're unlikely to ever hear anything from anyone who has the power and authority to force change.
Accept that a few bad apple can spoil a site and manage them yourself with the ignore function or move on and find a site that is more collegial. If you don't acknowledge them, they don't exist in your universe unless you let them. It's too bad that your thread got spoiled, 'cause this site is a repository for a lot of useful information that people with actual hands on experience are anxious to share with you if given the opportunity.
BS shows us a stack of business card all laid out.
Wants us to think he's cool because bought that many knives from a well known maker. <yawn>
I think that there was a time long ago when Larry had quite a bit of influence here and encouraged people to try things that he was using. He was the Kim Kardashian of the Campfire, the biggest influencer and opinion leader who was an advocate for Improved cartridges, specifically the 223, 243, and 7mm-08. Same/same for McMillan stocks, Ingram knives, and Leupold 6x42 scopes to name but a few. I know that time marches on and technologies change, but the old gear still works just as well as it did when it were at the top of the heap. The behavior of the old show and tell Larry was a lot more collegial than the show and berate Larry that has been here for the last ten plus years, but that's just my opinion. I don't dislike the man, I pity him and while I am not given to empathy, I do wonder what triggered his drastic change in behavior.
Ingram makes nice knives, but if all you're going to do with one is field dressing a couple of deer each year, you can do a pretty good job of it with a $6 Victorinox paring knife from SMKW and a Sagan saw. A lot of guys buy custom knives and Swedish axes just to have them, but never actually use them. A guy by the name of Larry Lewis used to make hand forged primitive knives as a hobby and sold them for under $50. When I cited him on this site people had a negative reaction, apparently they didn't believe that anyone could make a sharp knife that would hold an edge for such a low price. Larry Lewis' knife making was a retirement hobby and his low overhead can be attributed to the recycled materials that he used, walnut planks for scales and old leaf springs for blades. Not fancy, just functional.
A few days ago I signed up for the 24 Campfire and had to affirm that I would respect the rules and standards of civility for the board. Only to find immediately that there is a member here, Big Stick, who, by several reports of other posters here, has violated those standards repeatedly and for years. Who are the administrators and moderators for the campfire? Why haven’t you enforced these standards with this member who sows such discord and evil upon these pages? Why hasn’t this person been banned long ago?
A few days ago I signed up for the 24 Campfire and had to affirm that I would respect the rules and standards of civility for the board. Only to find immediately that there is a member here, Big Stick, who, by several reports of other posters here, has violated those standards repeatedly and for years. Who are the administrators and moderators for the campfire? Why haven’t you enforced these standards with this member who sows such discord and evil upon these pages? Why hasn’t this person been banned long ago?
Very good question. My recommendation would be stick with us for a while. A lot of knowledgeable, good folks. And you will quickly learn who the losers are,(you already know one!) and how to ignore them. Welcome aboard.
A few days ago I signed up for the 24 Campfire and had to affirm that I would respect the rules and standards of civility for the board. Only to find immediately that there is a member here, Big Stick, who, by several reports of other posters here, has violated those standards repeatedly and for years. Who are the administrators and moderators for the campfire? Why haven’t you enforced these standards with this member who sows such discord and evil upon these pages? Why hasn’t this person been banned long ago?
Once you start a new thread (new topic) you never, ever, know which direction it will take. The OP had his thoughts, intents and purposes or questions. Folks that respond have their own biases and interpretations. Some get a kick out of derailing a thread. Some enjoy answering questions and being helpful
My best advice as someone who has survived close to 13 years on this site, with only one person that really offended me (and it was not Larry/Boxer/Bushler/Big Stick), and no one on ignore, is to "roll with it". It's a great place to use as a means to occupy one's time, learn, entertain, and be entertained, buy, sell, make friends, all for a very reasonable price.
As an aside, I have no where the number of Ingram Business Cards that Larry has, but here are a few of the "one off" creations that accompanied said business cards.
The first Gene made for me.
Christened the "Ingram P & C (pig and coon)
Nessmuk set, Etched A2 & Ironwood
RW Loveless "Lambs" repros. Killer died Giraffe Bone scales
Kingfisher. A2 steel, Ironwood
My most prized Ingram. But that story for another time!
Kodiak The math goes something like this. Larry has stated before on here that he gets six months of vacation. (He has now amended that to 71/2 months) But at 6 months vacation, and if he has 600 guns (going from his posts, with several rifles in each chambering in many calibers, he must have over a 1000 guns), he has 180 days x 12 hours a day, or 2160 hours. Dividing 2160 hours by 600 guns gives an average of 3.6 hours per gun. I rounded up to seven hours per gun, in case he hunts 24 hours a day each day he has off. If he were to have 12 months a year off, and hunted 24 hours a day, that would give him a total of 8760 hours or an average of 14.6 hours per year, per gun.
If my math is off, I would hope someone would correct me. Larry has had ample opportunity to correct me, but chose to confirm my other accusations by making a couple of incredibly childish posts that completely ignored the issues I brought up.
So. Many. Assumptions.
I kind of figured it was going to be funny, but I didn’t think it would be THAT funny.
Sure glad I don’t have to hunt with every rifle I own, every year. Not sure why a rifle has to be hunted with, to be able to be considered as used. I mean, if a guy runs a thousand or two rounds through it in a day or two at varying ranges in varying conditions, does he learn more or less from that than firing a few rounds to sight in and then a round or two at flesh?
Why does someone else’s reasons for building a rifle have to match your reasons for same?
I always find it pretty funny that there are guys who run around biting his ankles because they don’t like the delivery of information.
Personally, I don’t care how information is passed along, but I certainly put more weight into stuff coming from someone who has “used X side by side with Y, and this is why Q works better”, versus someone who says “I bought this because I read about it in a magazine and this is why you should like it too and buy one so I’m justified in the money I spent.” I’ll GLADLY let someone else spend money on R&D and put it through more use in a week than most guys will in a lifetime, and then use those results objectively and make choices for MY dollars.
Stick hasn’t ever steered me wrong, and has freely offered up a cell number and time to help sort out rifle issues and figure out what I’m actually trying to accomplish. Guys like that are worth more on a forum than any 100 ankle biters who sling insults or try to prove someone wrong using imagined numbers.
But thats just me, I don’t really offend easily, and I don’t often post “questions” when what I really want is validation.
A few days ago I signed up for the 24 Campfire and had to affirm that I would respect the rules and standards of civility for the board. Only to find immediately that there is a member here, Big Stick, who, by several reports of other posters here, has violated those standards repeatedly and for years. Who are the administrators and moderators for the campfire? Why haven’t you enforced these standards with this member who sows such discord and evil upon these pages? Why hasn’t this person been banned long ago?
1. Click on the user's name in question on the left side of the screen. 2. In the drop down menu, choose "view profile" 3. Under the user's info will be a link "ignore user". Click the link and you'll never have to see his posts again.
Big Stick is probably on more people's ignore list than any other member of the forum, and for good reason.
Imagine being so ego feeble that you get all pissed... At a forum poster... On one of the fringest placed on the web (4chan for boomers)... By some dude whose handle is a phallus reference...
People are just so freaking dumb with gun fuddlore, hearing somebody repeatedly reemphasize what actually works is refreshing.
The other day I was shooting the breeze with a plumber when rifles came up. He mentioned he bought his 11 year old a 7-08 because it "don't ring his little ears as bad as the awt six". He'll move him up to the awt six once he's older.
A couple days later I heard a farmer trying to explain max point blank range to a customer in a pawn shot- "that bullet crosses the up and down line two times, ya see- with a 270 you can hit out to 300 yards between the crosses". Senior lifelong hunters mind was blown.
Not joking on either account.
Also- y'all ever thought that maybe a fella with a couple dozen rifles likes to take friends shooting?
One nice thing about not being poor is you can bankroll the toys for folks that are.
Cracks me up that y'all can't see through the big schtick.
A few days ago I signed up for the 24 Campfire and had to affirm that I would respect the rules and standards of civility for the board. Only to find immediately that there is a member here, Big Stick, who, by several reports of other posters here, has violated those standards repeatedly and for years. Who are the administrators and moderators for the campfire? Why haven’t you enforced these standards with this member who sows such discord and evil upon these pages? Why hasn’t this person been banned long ago?
Every forum has their attention whores and cumstains. The appeal of lil twig is that his comes in one hilariously pudgy, pork jowled jackwipe package. Some people will dig through the thorns to try to find some semblance of a rose in him, but I've got too much self-respect. He's probably rubbing one out to the attention your post gave him.
Kodiak What were my assumptions? That there 24 hours in a day? Thirty days in a month? That it’s impossible to have more than 12 months a year? That 24 hours is the most a person can hunt in a day? My premise was that Larry’s rifles, on average, get very little use per year. That isn’t questioning his motives for buying a gun, it questions his claim to be such a hard user of rifles. If you look at the numbers I posted, they were the absolute total number of average hours Larry could use a rifle, with no time out for sleeping, reloading, posting childish posts on 24 Hour Campfire, dating Miss America, or running marathons. The one assumption I made was that Larry owned 600 guns, and I don’t believe I was far off on that. The only funny thing is how you convoluted what I posted so that you could defend Larry.
I can’t tell if you are deliberately being obtuse, or if it just comes naturally to you? I guess I should point out that your “math” assumes that he buys 600 rifles a year…. If a guy builds say, 3 rifles a month, and has say, 12 days off in each calendar month, how long does it take to knock the new off of a rifle if you whistle 500 rounds through it in a day? Three times over? Is a person not allowed to remember how something similar extrapolates to the components in hand? If you already know a particular rifle, and have put it through paces and know what it is capable of in good conditions and then use it side by each with new rifles in less favorable conditions to see how that compares are you not allowed to make notes or remember particulars?
Your biggest assumption made is that Sticks rifles only get used to hunt. I get the feeling that the dude has a pretty solid primer popping habit. Your second biggest assumption is that YOUR available free time/rifle/glass/powder/bullet budget is comparable to ANYONE else’s. I don’t care how anyone else spends their dollars or their time. I will however look at objective results and learn from that.
As to me “defending” Stick, I’ll point this out to you since it has obviously flown over your head, dude doesn’t need or care about anyone defending him. I’m merely pointing out that the knowledge he brings to the forum carries a lot more value to a lot more people than it does to have you on the forum. Guys like you feel it’s acceptable to dogpile on people because everyone else is doing it so it must be ok. Think about that for a bit.
Kodiak It's not me that is obtuse. It's you. You also have no reading ability, and less civility. I never said that Larry buys six hundred rifles a year. I said that he owns at least 600 guns. If you can point out how someone that has 600 guns, can use them, on average, more than half a day a year, I'd love to see your "math". Hint: there are only 365 days a year. I'd suggest you learn to read before you pester me.
A few days ago I signed up for the 24 Campfire and had to affirm that I would respect the rules and standards of civility for the board. Only to find immediately that there is a member here, Big Stick, who, by several reports of other posters here, has violated those standards repeatedly and for years. Who are the administrators and moderators for the campfire? Why haven’t you enforced these standards with this member who sows such discord and evil upon these pages? Why hasn’t this person been banned long ago?
Maybe the advertisers would step in. I contacted one myself.
Kodiak It's not me that is obtuse. It's you. You also have no reading ability, and less civility. I never said that Larry buys six hundred rifles a year. I said that he owns at least 600 guns. If you can point out how someone that has 600 guns, can use them, on average, more than half a day a year, I'd love to see your "math". Hint: there are only 365 days a year. I'd suggest you learn to read before you pester me.
Nope, this is alllllll you. You asked if anyone could refute your “math”. I quite clearly pointed out your assumptions. That you refuse to acknowledge them isn’t on me.
You continue to insist that every rifle a person owns, has to be used every year. I myself probably own less than 40 rifles, and have rifles that haven’t been shot in likely a decade. Why don’t you spend more time worrying about what you do (or don’t do as the case may be) and less time about what someone else does? Don’t like the way information is delivered by Stick? Then don’t read it.
A few days ago I signed up for the 24 Campfire and had to affirm that I would respect the rules and standards of civility for the board. Only to find immediately that there is a member here, Big Stick, who, by several reports of other posters here, has violated those standards repeatedly and for years. Who are the administrators and moderators for the campfire? Why haven’t you enforced these standards with this member who sows such discord and evil upon these pages? Why hasn’t this person been banned long ago?
And deny us the opportunity to mud wrestle! How dare you! Stick is just one of many, and by the way it is called free speech.
A few days ago I signed up for the 24 Campfire and had to affirm that I would respect the rules and standards of civility for the board. Only to find immediately that there is a member here, Big Stick, who, by several reports of other posters here, has violated those standards repeatedly and for years. Who are the administrators and moderators for the campfire? Why haven’t you enforced these standards with this member who sows such discord and evil upon these pages? Why hasn’t this person been banned long ago?
Once you start a new thread (new topic) you never, ever, know which direction it will take. The OP had his thoughts, intents and purposes or questions. Folks that respond have their own biases and interpretations. Some get a kick out of derailing a thread. Some enjoy answering questions and being helpful
My best advice as someone who has survived close to 13 years on this site, with only one person that really offended me (and it was not Larry/Boxer/Bushler/Big Stick), and no one on ignore, is to "roll with it". It's a great place to use as a means to occupy one's time, learn, entertain, and be entertained, buy, sell, make friends, all for a very reasonable price.
As an aside, I have no where the number of Ingram Business Cards that Larry has, but here are a few of the "one off" creations that accompanied said business cards.
The first Gene made for me.
Christened the "Ingram P & C (pig and coon)
Nessmuk set, Etched A2 & Ironwood
RW Loveless "Lambs" repros. Killer died Giraffe Bone scales
Kingfisher. A2 steel, Ironwood
My most prized Ingram. But that story for another time!
It is a HILARIOUSLY Fascinating Constant,that it's always the same Brokedick CLUELESS Fhuqking Whiners,who are perpetually advocating their "Life" spent perfecting being a Crying Karen Kchunt "Victim"...in their newfound "brazen" Woketitude. You gals wear it well. Hint. Congratulations?!? Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Pardon the ease in which I arrange Facts,so reliably colliding with your Delusional Fantasies. I rather enjoy how "traumatic" things such as colors,adhesives,weather,vehicles,the REAL Outdoors,vacation,pay checks,blades,and a plethora of HILARIOUS others,slap your collective Tender Feelers so fhuqking reliably and with such unbridled authority. It was never my intent to infer that you could even begin to hang and do not slight the EPIC Hilarity of the fruition of said realities,getting sooooooooo fhuqking many CLUELESS Kchunts to crying and filling out WELL founded Hurt Feeler Reports. I get it,that you Estrogen Raging Fhuqktards,can't,won't,don't turn a lick and simply never will. You are fortunate,that Imagination and Pretend are free,so you can "afford" to "contribute",with your High Pitched Vagina Monologues! Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Only you,can prevent YOU from saying something fhuqking STUPID and I'd not think to turn that tide,even if I could...mainly because it is funnier than fhuqk. Read that again. Now one more time. Perhaps PM each other and "explain" yet again,how VERY "real" Imaginary Pretend Ignore is,to you Lying Pieces Of Fhuqking Schit. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
So as you Woke Kchunts set upon same,you be SURE to REALLY Hissy a fit,if only for Dramatic Flair. Not that I could stop you,or want to either. The Perpetual Meltdown and sound of Moths colliding Flames,is more than just a "touch" fhuqking soothing and only because you Drooling Fhuqktards are doing your ABSOLUTE best. For context,do not "forget" to quantify how many times a day you think about me. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Perhaps you Melting Snowflakes can denote which chamberings,twist rates,bullets,optics and the like can be discussed on a Outdoors Forum within the Hunting Rifles Board,so as to salve your VERY Tender Feelers and keep things "fair". I'll promise to steamroll through all of it,rub your noses in your own fhuqking STUPIDITY and simply talk about wares that exist and in the firsthand,as you "laude" your Drooling Delusions and cry for help. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
The astute will simply take notes,apply same and cut checks in accordance. Crying Karens will "justify" how "REAL" Imagination and Pretend are(to them),then extoll their Hurt Feelers and the "brave" "plight" of being a "Victim".
Bless your hearts for trying though,you Fearless Fillies REALLY are doing "great!".
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!
P.S. and by the way,the OP is a CLUELESS Fhuqk and in wayyyyyyyyy over her head.
Oooooooopsie! I stand "corrected",by yet another Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit,as she reads my EVERY word and gawks EVERY Splendid Pixel...the "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Pardon wares that exist. The Mail was calling,if only as per always. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Bless your heart for Lying,Crying,Trying and Whining.
Bacon throat!! You’re gonna wear out that 26’ just posting pics of it you stupid cuunt!! Haha
Ya word has it he’s the local ‘smith on the rez… suppose if a guy quit buying shiit rifles, probably wouldn’t need any advice.. ie; Kimber, Winchester etc… hint
You're just mad because he critiqued your "components on the ground" photo. But it's your own fault for not using sparkly markers to label things with names that only you think are clever.
The .257 Sierra TGK 110 grain is listed as 1.245" in bullet lists and b.c. is .447. Probably would need to drop to a 1 in 9 twist at .250 Savage velocity.
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