Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by jimy
Where this becomes a two headed snake is who's name is on the deed, so many of these "ranchers" consider land that they lease is "their land", instead of "Americans land".


After ranching BLM for many years, and knowing the full gamut of ranchers that did likewise, I never actually ran across one that thought of the land as "theirs". (some were good guys. Some I couldn't stand. Most treated the land and managed it well.)

I have however shared the knowledge that when you pay for the grazing permit per animal unit and pay the annual lease, then you do indeed own the grazing rights.

Those grazing rights can be bought, sold, traded or bartered and have a real value very comparable to deeded land.


Absolutely...Just like Mineral Rights or Water Rights if you form an incorporated "Mining District Inc." or "Water District Inc." that might also be on Fed lands or even on/under your next door neighbor's Property smile

The Commercial loopholes are endless in these cases.


When I no longer have the right to protect my own person or property...my person and property have become public property in common.