25 is my max with trad, even though i can shoot well past that. I also won't shoot at an alarmed deer.
I had a 145" bust me, or so I thought and he gave me a wide open 35 yarder broadside (was looking at a 7pt).
Shooting 3D all summer (and doing well) I coulda put it on a dime.
But would he just stand there and take it?
I thought not, so never even drew my bow. 2 steps about two minutes before and I'd have smoked him at 10 yds.
Passed on him in gun season, wanted him w bow. Never seen again.
Oh well.