here, deer just flat move at the shot, relaxed even.

So we found that about 17 on out you have no clue if they will be right when the arrow arrives or gut shot or missed etc....

So learning that the hard way we just stickto 15 and in or no shot.

We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....