Thank you again Calhoun. It was a 300 sav and I've already dialed in the scope. I was picking the pigeons off at around 200 yrds and the other guys around me kinda fell in love with, what they called the old cowboy rifle. One of the younger guys dialing in a new ak 47 said "I want an old cowboy gun!" Im sure ill be needing your guidance again soon cause I think well be seeing more savages in our group of shooters soon.