Just got a Rughr No. 1 AH. I loaded 20 rounds with the same formula as joshf303. good looking load. #1 SIL, a former co-worker, and one of my doctors have been telling me for years how they do a number on deer and the doc adds elk to the list. Old bones need a bit less recoil, so here we go. jack


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