this trip was'nt my 1st to a knifer's shop but my first real trip thru the whole process. in fact i was realy fatigued by just following dale & rick from station to station.oven to air cool to cryo to grinder to demagnitizer to flat grinders to wheel grinders to deburr to forever back & forth. may i say i much prefer moving beds & couchs cleaning carpets to actually making quality knives. hundreds & hundreds of mini journeys that took a complete day & the blades had been heattreated before our arrival. per hour rick probably makes about 8 or 9 dollars an hour. outsiders would be truly amazed by the amount of effort to make a real fine folder.--cranky72
