Bluedreaux, YOU don't count in this shooting experiment! It's obvious that you are too well trained and too used to shooting a handgun. Get someone who has not gone to school for more than five minutes in the last six years, younger than sixteen or thereabouts, and use full house loads in a 45ACP laying on it's side at arm's length one handed! Now, dance and shuffle and you'll be close to gangbanger style shooting! Then show us that target!