I don't want to hijack this but what would be a smoking deal on a PMII 4-16X50? I am trying to set up a long range elk rifle and have a chance to buy one that is like new but have no idea what it would be worth. They look like $3000 or so new online. Over the weekend he offered it to me for $1500 but I just don't know where to start and was actually thinking of offering $1000. I will say this: it looks like one heck of a nice piece of equipment to me. I have a 2.5-10 on .338 and really like it a lot. Sorry for the hijack.