to take this as a hi jack in another direction. I have a box of speer gold dot 250 hollow points. The loads i am picking up run it at about 750 to 800fps. Talk about pokey. But they are suppose to penetrate 14inches of gellatin, and open to around .75.
I think of that, then i think of my home made cast 280 grain saa keith bullet hollowpoint moving at 1000fps. I guess there is such a thing as overpenetration in an urban environment.


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