Originally Posted by frogman43
Originally Posted by bobbyjack
Originally Posted by Hoot
I think the model 25 is the same N frame as the Model 29 44 mag.

should be good.
WRONG The first N frames were the 38/44 ,which

were the first 357 loaded to near mag loads ,which brought about the REG MAG

that S&W brought out in 35,then the Mod 37,28 ect.

The Mod 25 though big framed will not take the high pressures the 29 will.

Many have abandoned there mod 25 because the 45acp has the same balistics.

Now the New Blackhawk will take any 45 colt loads you care to load!
Bob



While they are the same size frame and look alike, I have been told the frame of the 25 is not made to the same robustness of the 29.

That being said, the .45 Colt is a fine cartridge that gets the job done without having to be a firebreathing dragon at high pressures. Personally I prefer a double action wheelgun when in remote areas. If I eer have a set to with an ornery critter....a double is easier to manipulate with one hand. Faster too.....

Like I said before, a 250 gr hardcast moving 1,000 fps or a little more, will perforate most anything you need it to....

When I went looking for a model 25 I specifically searched for a 25-7 until I found one. Makes a perfect hunting revolver....for me!

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Perhaps others here can tell you more about the specifics of the metallurgy involved but I don't think there has ever been any differences in the solidity of the frames. The slight difference between the ability of the two guns to handle higher pressures is due to the thinness of the cylinder walls of the 45 calibers being greater than that of the .429 caliber revolvers. I'm guessing that a .44 Special even is probably capable of handling greater pressures. It was not uncommon for Keith and his peers to load them up to at least 1200 fps as opposed to recent conventional wisdom which has the 45 Colt models capable of about 1000 to 1100 fps depending upon your source. The first estimates in 1978 were more like 100 fps less. Take note that velocities and pressures are not completely interchangeable. Also, I have no idea about previous 45 Colt models, the 1955 Target and the like, which were to the best of my knowledge, few and far between. The production of the 25's in 45 Colt that are made now, were pretty much started a couple of years before the standard issues came out in '78 with MIM production starting somewhere later...and possibly being of significance.

Anybody playing with top velocities in this or any other gun should not take mine or anybody else's word for it on the internet as their final analysis but should instead, do their own research.