This is an intelligent conversation with facts from first hand experience! My shooting and use is casual, hunting, and "messing around". Yesterday we were just shooting all kinds of stuff, .380's, Ruger #3 in 30-40 Craig, an old Colt SA army model that someone's grandad used as a sheriff in Oklahoma, 22LR's, 223's and my new Smith 308. I wish I had the time to compete but it won't be in the cards for another 3 years when I retire!