I handled a youth model this week that I would have bought had I got there a bit sooner. It was marked for close out at Academy and priced at $125. A friend of mine who works the gun counter saw the markdown and bought it. I know a young lady in need of a compact muzzleloader- oh well. The Knights are great shooters and with 209 ignition they are really reliable and much easier to clean up than my old Wolverine.