I guess I am one of those you just labled as not "getting it". I've mentored more than a few people and helped them make an intelligent selection of their own as well as coached them on setup and sighting in. Donated plenty of time to new hunters, watched some of them sell their guns after the season for cash to buy rubber dog sh*t and other things with no or little value by my values. Poor money management and lack of values they suffer, if they can't borrow one they buy one cheap and ammo at whatever mart. Save your lecture and rebuttal period. If I go on a distant hunt I take along a full confidence backup gun so I will never ever ask someone to borrow their weapon. Guns, money, dogs ,women, and vehicles I don't loan or borrow . Way I figure it if you want to hunt, providing your own weapon is part of it. Magnum Man