i take all of the 295 copper powerbelts that you have. the 6 of us that have hunted with them sense the day they came out have killed a few hundred beer and around 20 bear. 90-100 grns of powder is all we shoot.shot one yesterday that dropped within 40yds. i can tell you how to make a hollow point stay together and penetrate better. shove a .177 lead pellet in the hole. it changes the bullet.