Originally Posted by Ringman
Originally Posted by nighthawk
Philosophically (logically) speaking, is it even possible to prove the existence (and conversely non-existence) of a god if we consider ourselves a separate, unconnected reality (Western tradition)? Or does belief in a god require a "leap of faith," however small?


The mere idea you bring up logic presupposes something beyond the natural. Laws of logic can not be seen or felt or tasted or measured. And yet they are real, invariant, abstract, universal, entities which govern all possible conceptual relationship. In fact they describe how concepts relate to each other. They are contingent upon a Biblical God. The God of the Bible can account for all these properties. Evolution can't by its very nature of random chance.


No, they are not.

The fact that a rock is a rock, and it is not not a rock is not contingent upon any supernatural being.

Last edited by antelope_sniper; 06/27/18.

You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell