My Grand momma and mother are gone, and I'm not gonna hurt their feelings. But those packages are so much easier, KISS, and as good. Off subject, but try the frozen Pillsbury Grands biscuits and Pioneer country gravy mix, but use milk instead of water. capt david
"It's not how hard you hit 'em, it's where you hit 'em." The 30-06 will, with the right bullet, successfully take any game animal in North America up to 300yds.
If you are a hunter, and farther than that, get closer!
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