Someone once said there are lies, damn lies, and damn statistical lies. While fooling around with the numbers last evening, I calculated the volume in ccs of the volumes of the PPU and Super X brass. 1 kilo=1000grams=1000ml=1000cc at a standard temperature I don't recall and using distilled water. Using Keith Nyst #s for the Win brass capacity combined with my #s of displacement of water by the 190gr Barnes, we get 48.7 gr-11.51 gr=37.1 gr. 37.1 grains/ 15.432 grams/grain =2.404 grams or 2.404 ccs. Using my #s for the ppu with the 190 Barnes Yields 34.84grains /15.432=2.258 ccs. The Varget load was 30 gr. The VMD pf Varget is 0.0731grains per cc. .0731*30=2.193 cc. In the ppu case that would be a case of 2.258 cc with 2.193 ccs of Varget or a case 97.12% full. In the win case of 2.404 cc with 2.193 Varget, it yields a case 91.22% full. another way of looking at it is the win capacity of 2.404 cc minus the ppu capacity of 2.258=0.146cc .146cc/0.0731cc/gr=2.00MORE GRAINS TO FILL THE WIN CASE TO THE SAME LEVEL. Any second now I expect the Black Pepper POPO to descend upon me. Thats the folks that weigh the fly poop in black pepper,covertly sneak into our bedrooms to check for the mattress tags, and other necessary functions of our benevolent Government. None of us used distilled water or heated/ cooled to the unknown temp. And we're not. We're just trying to get close for a reasonable comparison.