Tractors too, but I didn't want to give away all of my secret hunting techniques. Thanks Jay. grin

While we're on the subject, I've been know to use a grill for a rest. The rifle is in a totally supported position with the grill pushed all the way up to the trigger guard and can be steadied for long long shot. Doesn't work at all with a magazine. When I'm grill hunting its BDL or ADL.