I will use my Leupolds until they wear out and fog over and won't shoot a 3 inch group. I have never had any of the problems described on here other they don't track like some claim their Night Forces and Zeiss do. But I'm not a turret cranker anyway. I sight in at the range 1 1/2 inch high at 100 yards and go hunting. I know all the holdovers for my rifle and load and if I need to shoot out to 400 yards I just hold over about 17 inches.

If Leupold goes away( I don't think they're going anywhere because they're still very popular other than on here) I'll buy Nikon or Burris. Nikon is my "OTHER" favorite scope. On another forum I'm on Leupold is king and Nikon and Burris are the dogs. There it's the same thing, certain people run them down and list 2 dozen problems with them I've never personally encountered.

On that forum the majority are anti .270 ANYTHING! And most of the bad mouthers have never shot, much less owned a .270. They keep hooting about there's not enough different bullets made for it, which I believe to be a crock. Now they aren't long range target rifles mainly because nobody makes a good heavy target bullet in .277 diameter yet, so that complaint may have merrit in that respect but I'm a hunter as most all there are. But their argument has no real merrit because if you ask them what bullets they use in such and such rifle they'll tell you they shoot nothing but. such and such, which is my answer to their complaint about the .270. I don't need 40 different bullets for it. Hell it's a deer rifle that I also use on hogs. But everybody makes the best weight hunting bullets for it which seem to be a 100 grain, 130 grain, 140 grain, 150 grain, and now some companies are making 160s and a couple specialty bullet companies are making as heavy as 170 or maybe 175 for long range in fast twist barrels. How many freaking bullets do you need? And I would bet at some point some of these specialty bullet makers like Matrix or Berger will eventually come out with some heavy accuracy bullets in .277 diameter.

I personally prefer a 130 grain either Sierra Game King or a 130 grainll Nosler Ballistic Tip and also the Combined Technologies Ballistic Tip for both deer and hogs. Any 130 grain Spitzer in a .270 are deadly on deer and medium size game out to the ranges I shoot at anyway, which is usually around 400 yards max. And I wouldn't be afraid to take it on an Elk Hunt if I ever get an opportunity to go on one. If so, I'll use another bullet made for it, a 150 grain Nosler Partition. And there's several more good 150 grain bullets capable of penetrating a heavy animal's skin and bones made for it such as the Swift A Frame and the Speer Grand Slam. It IS missile science but very basic Missile science. There's more than an adequate range of bullets made for the .270. But the point is this is a silly argument just like some of what's said about Leupold scopes on here.

Anyway, like was said, you can't always take what you hear on these forums to the bank. It's all about opinions and in truth there's probably a lot of scopes that work well, and a lot of different cartridges that will kill anything walking on this continent. Use what you want based on your personal experience, and I'd bet you will do well if you do a lot of shooting and hone your skills. It's more about the the nut behind the trigger than the trigger.

Last edited by Filaman; 06/29/19.

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