Both of y’all are stepping all over yourselves trying to figure out how to try to ignore what’s actually and only being stated. FMJ was only mentioned because cameltoe bob wants to insist it’s all that matters, while insisting he didn’t. Next we have some logical fallacy of bad bullet construction overcoming anything....which was never mentioned. TSXs have been raping sectional density worshippers for years, due to good bullet design. There are tons of light/short/low sd bullets that penetrate more than enough, expand more than enough, and kill more than enough.....due to good design, materials, and staying in their velocity parameters. Maybe y’all think someone here believes a round ball is the way to go, or that it can’t ever penetrate enough to begin with. Mostly, you just seem to want to figure out a way to argue the obvious by living in the extremes that no one else cares to.