Originally Posted by Formidilosus
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye

Has anyone scientifically verified this with a timer? I'm talking about max distances of like six yards.



Of course. There is no comparison. The issue isn’t in raw time side by side- though red dots are faster. The difference is during stress, low light, moving targets, etc. Point shooting is not an answer, guns aren’t magic you must destroy vital organs.

No organization whose primary function is to shoot at close range uses irons.


Not disagreeing, but would add that shotgunning M4s can enough accuracy for room distances, although not trained as much since RDs became primaries. Also, some LPVs seem as fast as RDs, to me. All three are faster than irons, especially in low light.