Is my 30-30 with 170's ok? Bein a lightweight model with a half mag and 18" barrel it do kick a bit more than a 243. It's a short range proposition. Nice little rifle for sneakin around in the woods with. And walkin up on a sounder in the tall cane grass can be fast action.

But I got a 243 too, for campin out on the edges. I don't hunt elk. Sometimes I do think about getting a more powerful rifle in case I can make it to New Mexico for free range aoudad. Although a good deal of folks around this site hunt whitetails and hogs with a 223 and 53 to 65 grain bullets.