I started with a Lyman nutcracker tool which belonged to Dad. Got my own Lee Loader in 1964, I think. Bought my first press, the RCBS Jr., in 1971, along with a 505 Scale. A couple years later, I added a RCBS powder measure. I still have and use both. I have purchased other presses but never kept them. The old Jr. works fine. I also still use Lee Loaders, and still have the old Lyman nutcracker (tong) tool and some dies for it. GD