I don't know offhand if Speer still makes the bullet but they did make a 130 gr flat nose in .308 dia.. I had no trouble loading them to over 2500 fps in my 24" barreled 94. The bullet was made for lever gun use. Just a thought that loaded to 2300 fps and reduced bullet weight would make for more tolerable recoil level for a young person. Personally I've allways thought that the flat nose bullets used in 30-30 & 32 Specials are responsible for the rounds effectiveness within the range parameters they were designed for. MB

" Cheapest velocity in the world comes from a long barrel and I sure do like them. MB "