Agree T82, the Grand County forests have been rode hard. We are 2 hours away from 3 million people on the front range. The only answer to that I guess is to move away. The hunting pressure in the last few years is unbelievable...to the point that I gave up hunting the regular rifle seasons here a few years ago. I have heard thought that there is talk at CPW of limiting ALL licenses in unit 18...hopefully there will be no more OTC licenses. The USFS people I meet working around here are all good and dedicated people that have to work in an enormous bureaucracy. They do seem to be making dog decisions. They are getting some logging of beetle kill done but the scale of the problem dwarfs the resources. The guy that lost his house is actually over on the front range, in the Left Hand canyon fire. Another fire that blew up out of nowhere, kind of like the California situation.