Originally Posted by Gooch_McGrundle
Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Starman

If Trump was there with those other elected
officials, are you OK with LE capping someone's
ass with a backpack(possible IED and hidden weapons)
after defying LE commands while trying to force their
way where they clearly know they shouldn't ?


I don’t know the SOP’s for the White House or the Capitol Building.


chronic Flav. F•A•I•L

SOP has nothing to do with determining if Deadly Force
was Legally justified with AshB.

The law judges LE actions in Use of Force under
Fourth Amendment ~ objective reasonableness standard ~
(1985 SCOTUS Graham v. Connor.)
Legal Std. is not based on any LE agencies policy or procedure
FLETC informs all who pass through on that important fact..
and that includes Capitol Police.

And there can be range of LE responses (to
felony activity) that are deemed acceptable.
An officer is not necessarily required to use
the least force or avoid using Deadly Force.
Totality of Circumstance needs to be factored.
ie: task at hand , nature of threat , window of
time , avail. manpower , avail information ,etc...
So...it is not strictly carved in stone as to how
an officer may be required to respond without
the benefit of "20/20 hindsight"
..and that is
how the Law views it..what the officer had to
deal with at the time with what he had...not
what is known after the fact.

Which means citing or knowing LE Policy or
Procedure is irrelevant to all except bonehead
CF tards.


Graham v. Conner establishes standards to determine objective reasonableness in any use of force. Tennessee v. Garner establishes criteria for reasonable use of deadly force.

HOWEVER

Federal grounds have different rules if there are critical sources of information or other such criteria. The use of deadly force is authorized outside of standard self-defense, defense of others, etc..


Stink Star thinks the White House has to operate under the same legal standards as a Dunkin Donuts in Cleveland.

Cant make this schit up.

LOL


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house