Originally Posted by OldmanoftheSea
heard someone say yesterday they would be better off to seceed and become conservative south Canada.

This has not been my experience. My in laws were both born there. The wife has a lot of family there. The vast majority would like to leave Michigan and become part of Wisconsin. A friend of mine there wants to start a petition to leave MI.
It's about time for me to take a trip there. Hopefully the deer didn't break through my cages and eat my saplings. Our small property is in the Rapid River area-just NE of Escanaba.