Not only have I been removed from the high country for too long, the older I get, the less I know about anything! When I was working for outfitters the success rate was always swollen , imo, as nobody wished to suck as a guide or outfitter. The outfitters were highly regulated , mostly by the Forest Service, then DOW. The outfitters I worked for kept very accurate log books, so over a decade a pretty fair idea of success rates could be garnished for guided, economy and drop camp hunts! IMHO! I kept a log book of all my hunts back then as well, and my personal success rates from all the camps I worked , economy , guided and drop camps was less than 20 percent. I believe much of the DOW statistics back then may have used some of this intelligence!