The herd size numbers are nonsense and have been for a long time. Everytime CPW is challenged to actually find the number of elk they claim exist based on their "models", they are forced to cut their claim by a factor of 2 or more. Turns out you can't shoot modeled elk, only actual elk.

I suspect the hunt success numbers are dubious for draw tags, and complete garbage for OTC tags.

We need to eliminate OTC tags, base tag numbers on reliably measured herd sizes, and put bounties on coyotes and bears if we ever want to see decent public land elk hunting again. It'll never happen.

Last edited by Llama_Bob; 07/01/21.