Seems like Colorado likes to use the 10% success number across the board but when you consider the private land success levels in any given unit I think that’s the back bone of that 10%. I have hunted three falls now, 2 muzzleloader and 1 archery all in Sept. I have never had an opportunity to shoot any elk, but what’s more discouraging is that it seems to be the consensus of most hunters I talk to. I have yet to see antlers or meat in any camp in that 3 years either. Sure I see elk all over Colorado while out and about recreating throughout the year , mostly on private land but I’ll be damned if I see them in public. I’ve pretty much given up on elk hunting Colorado going into my 4th season here, sure I may screw around , but nothing serious or well planned or too far from home. I do plan to draw a cow tag in Utah this year so hopefully I’ll have some meat in the freezer at some point.