I handload 2-3/4" 1-1/8 oz loads at 1480 FPS. Anything else is overkill. Actually, I still use a 20 ga most of the fall and really only use the 12 ga in the late season. I am a 35 yard shooter and have always been. I also shoot up front with a tight choke. We shoot #6 and #3 shot.


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