My dad 1916-2001. His immigrant parents had a hardware/furniture store in eastern AZ. They used to haul goods from Phoenix on Model A or T trucks, I'm not sure which, over mountain dirt roads. Had to camp out along the way because it was a 2 day drive (now its 3-4 hrs) One of the best stories he told me was about having to put a loaded truck in reverse and back up through the steep mountain grades because 1st gear wasnt low enough.

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