I agree cleaning a folder is a lot of extra work. My go to knives have been Buck fixed blades for years. I've pretty much settled on a 116 for all gutting and skinning needs. When I'm all done I can throw it in the dishwasher. I did buy a rubber handled KOA Alpha Wolf to try this year. My only complaint about the Bucks is the handles do get a bit slick when wet. I do have a havalon but that only seems to get used for caping back at home or camp.