When I guided black bear hunters I always carried a model 8 in 35 Rem for backup. You never know how a "slick" will react if a bad shot is made or wanting to be three ridges over when I had to track a cripple. I have yet to find a better close range brush gun that can spit out five 200 grain slugs faster. My model 8 has a red fiber optic front sight with a Lyman peep and works excellent in dark timber, brush or fading light.