"There is not a person on this board that has killed more game without a 223 or more varmints with a 223 than I have.

Kirk,

Dunno what you're calling "killed more game without a 223," but have killed a LOT of big game without a .223, due to hunting far more places than Montana--sometimes several states/countries in one year. But whatever...

“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
John Steinbeck